thoughts on genes?

Looks like a low quality purple passion and the second snake is not what u were told, I’m not sure what it is but looks to definitely have spider in it.

i hope these are not snakes u plan on breeding and are just some pretty pets for u

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Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles

Nowadays considering how many combos there are and how many looks alike or are subtle unless you know the pairing it's just gonna be a guessing game, there is Spider in it and some other genes.

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maybe i will email the breeder and see what kind of records were kept and maybe something got misidentified on the way to the show...i can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Pleco

the guy has bred balls for 30 years and puts on the shows of our states herp society...thats why i posted here also

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Pastel Enchi Calico and Super Pastel Enchi Calico have been around for a while and are pretty basic so not something someone with 30 years experience would misidentify.

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Originally Posted by Pleco

the guy has bred balls for 30 years and puts on the shows of our states herp society...thats why i posted here also

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Just because u can breed snakes doesn’t mean ur a reputable breeder. I wouldn’t buy a spider ball because I’m not a fan of breeding them. So if I paid money and was told something completely wrong I’d be upset.

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Originally Posted by Danger noodles

Looks like a low quality purple passion and the second snake is not what u were told, I’m not sure what it is but looks to definitely have spider in it.

i hope these are not snakes u plan on breeding and are just some pretty pets for u

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i was going to breed them down the road. not to make money but just to have some pretty babies. maybe some single genes will come out on the babies. if i sell some, it will be very cheap as i clearly am an ametuer

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Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles

Pastel Enchi Calico and Super Pastel Enchi Calico have been around for a while and are pretty basic so not something someone with 30 years experience would misidentify.

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And the fact that it has spider in it. If I can see that a breeder should know it’s wrong when he looked at the card and it was that far off.

Sorry man man but I got lied to. If they are pets then oh well they are pretty

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Originally Posted by Pleco

i was going to breed them down the road. not to make money but just to have some pretty babies. maybe some single genes will come out on the babies. if i sell some, it will be very cheap as i clearly am an ametuer

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I’d think twice before breeding the spider, maybe do so research on the problems they have

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Originally Posted by Danger noodles

I’d think twice before breeding the spider, maybe do so research on the problems they have

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im aware of the head wobble. i paid 200 for that one and 250 for the purple passion. not that upset as they weren't expensive and not introducing into a breeding line. im now even more curious on whats in there on the now determined spider morph

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Originally Posted by Pleco

curious on whats in there on the now determined spider morph

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High white side, head marking and spider web pattern on the back.

so my friend got a pet that he doesn't plan to breed but out of curiosity he bought this at the show from a different breeder labeled as a pastel...would you guys agree?

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