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  • 11-13-2005, 02:04 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    I know you wouldn't like to live in a small dark hole either, but that's where the snakes prefer to be. Tank or tub is mostly your preference, as long as you can keep the temps and humidity in the correct ranges you'll be ok.

    Feeding in the cage and/or feeding live are fine. There's no big issue there. Just make sure to supervise the feedings.

    Damp bedding is never a good idea. It leads to belly rot, and just isn't advisable. There is a huge difference between dumping a glass of water in the cage and misting the sides of the cage. HUGE!!
  • 11-13-2005, 02:08 PM
    HockeyFan2kx
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by IamKaervek
    I don't like the aesthetics of rubbermaid enclosures. I know I wouldn't want to live in a tub. Even if I were to feed in a seperate enclosure, how long would I have to wait before putting the snake back into his regular home? Certainly moving a snake that's recently fed isn't a good idea.

    The snake would have a better life in a Tub where the environment is what it should be, unlike an open top cage. Remember we're talking about a snake that spends 95% of their life in a hide box so where they live isn't as important as environment levals..But I guess if you don't like it then that's all that matters.

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    I think I'll buy some glass to cover 3/4 of the screen-lid, and I'll keep my eyes open for a lid that's mostly solid. Probably have to have something made custom for this...
    Humidity is the amount of water vapor in the air, so if you have a hole at the top of your cage (how ever big or small) this will allow all of that humidity/heat and air to escape. What does this mean? This means you are going to have a hard time keeping humidity and heat in that cage, with open top cages the environment in the cage is in most cases the same as in the room it's in


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    Again, I must not have been very clear - I didn't flood the tank or any areas of the tank with water, I just poured some water in and stirred it up a bit to make it moist, not soaking. There's already a large water-bowl for the snake to bask in if he needs it. Like I said before, I'm already addressing the humidity issue :)
    You have no idea how bad it is to add a glass of water to the cage how ever small the amout, you don't have to flood the tank to be in the danger zone, it is not like misting and is such a bad move, you have no idea how bad it is to have that much moister in your cage. Please do your snake a favour and do some research on this because you'll be very surprised at what you find.
  • 11-13-2005, 02:10 PM
    HockeyFan2kx
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily
    I know you wouldn't like to live in a small dark hole either, but that's where the snakes prefer to be. Tank or tub is mostly your preference, as long as you can keep the temps and humidity in the correct ranges you'll be ok.

    Feeding in the cage and/or feeding live are fine. There's no big issue there. Just make sure to supervise the feedings.

    Damp bedding is never a good idea. It leads to belly rot, and just isn't advisable. There is a huge difference between dumping a glass of water in the cage and misting the sides of the cage. HUGE!!

    Maybe now he will listen, he seemed to think I was trying to steer him wrong.
  • 11-13-2005, 02:36 PM
    IamKaervek
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Well, looks like I'll be picking up a new enclosure this week. I think I'll set something up like a "shoebox" rack, with enclosures that slide out. I'll start looking for some good ideas now. I've also been wanting to get some geckos and some frogs, so maybe I'll just reserve Bo's current tank for those in the future.

    Thanks for all the input, guys!

    Quote:

    he seemed to think I was trying to steer him wrong
    Oh, no, not at all. Sorry if I gave that impression. I just was a little apprehensive to think that I had been making the wrong decisions. I really appreciate you giving me feedback.
  • 11-13-2005, 03:24 PM
    HockeyFan2kx
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by IamKaervek
    Well, looks like I'll be picking up a new enclosure this week. I think I'll set something up like a "shoebox" rack, with enclosures that slide out. I'll start looking for some good ideas now. I've also been wanting to get some geckos and some frogs, so maybe I'll just reserve Bo's current tank for those in the future.

    Unless you plan on holding more the 1 snake, I think a rack system is alittle over kill. Trust me when I say you can fine a great clear tub to use. For 15-20 bucks you could get a clear tud about the same size as a 30g tank and be able to set it up to look very nice.
  • 11-13-2005, 11:39 PM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    if you have a hole at the top of your cage (how ever big or small) this will allow all of that humidity/heat and air to escape. What does this mean? This means you are going to have a hard time keeping humidity and heat in that cage, with open top cages the environment in the cage is in most cases the same as in the room it's in
    False, you don't cover the whole tub and not let any air flow at all, do you? You need some air flow and fresh oxygen to enter, right? You probably have small holes drilled around the tub, right? Same effect. If I leave my tanks uncovered the humidity will drop drastically, like 30%, but if I cover 3/4 of it the levels increase to the 50-60 range. I prefer racks, but I still use tanks too with no problems. There are many alternatives to any one way of doing something. User and occupant preference is the key. BRB's are really hard to keep in tanks, but balls and rosys are particularly easy to keep in them.
  • 11-14-2005, 12:08 AM
    HockeyFan2kx
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim020cricket
    False, you don't cover the whole tub and not let any air flow at all, do you? You need some air flow and fresh oxygen to enter, right? You probably have small holes drilled around the tub, right? Same effect. If I leave my tanks uncovered the humidity will drop drastically, like 30%, but if I cover 3/4 of it the levels increase to the 50-60 range. I prefer racks, but I still use tanks too with no problems. There are many alternatives to any one way of doing something. User and occupant preference is the key. BRB's are really hard to keep in tanks, but balls and rosys are particularly easy to keep in them.

    Not False! Your humidity levals rise to 50-60% when 1/4 of the top is left open because your snake room is at that leval, don't believe me? Check with a hydrometre and the question will be answered. There is no way you can have the top lid open even 1/4 and say the environment won't escape threw that opening.

    And yes I use tubs will drilled holes in them.
  • 11-14-2005, 08:46 AM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    And yes I use tubs will drilled holes in them.
    Thanks, you just proved my statement. Have a nice day :) . My house is in NY and if our humidity goes above 25% with the heat on--we are lucky :P
  • 11-14-2005, 04:57 PM
    HockeyFan2kx
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim020cricket
    Thanks, you just proved my statement. Have a nice day :) . My house is in NY and if our humidity goes above 25% with the heat on--we are lucky :P

    Proved what point? You've lost me
  • 11-14-2005, 05:08 PM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Mr. Bojangles (640x480px)
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    Proved what point? You've lost me
    Nevermind... ;)
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