Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?

I was thinking possibly lesser banana
I don't see any of those other suspected genes in there but I am not an expert

Very pretty baby regardless!!

The minute I saw the pictures originally a Lesser/Butter + Banana is what came to mind.

Paul

Lesser Banana + Something else it's one of those because so many combos are starting to look alike that will only be identifiable if bred to another animal either a normal or a single gene visual recessive.

Otherwise a cool pet a a very low price.

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Originally Posted by pbenner

The minute I saw the pictures originally a Lesser/Butter + Banana is what came to mind.

Paul

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Thanks for the input! [emoji4] They do look similar, with the exception that mine has the solid dorsal stripe. Do you think that could be something else contributing, or could the butter/lesser gene produce that?


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Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles

Lesser Banana + Something else it's one of those because so many combos are starting to look alike that will only be identifiable if bred to another animal either a normal or a single gene visual recessive.

Otherwise a cool pet a a very low price.

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Thank you! [emoji3526]

That’s what I was worried about. Well, not ‘worried’ per se, but I was afraid that’d be the only way to find out. He’s still young and I am still learning, so if I ever decided to breed him, it’d be quite some time (and after a lot more research).

I’m happy to see all the lesser/butter replies though! I think the BELs are gorgeous, so it’d be great to get a female down the road that I could cross him with to try for one.


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oops posted in error

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

It could be from the lesser/butter gene easily - I have a full back stripe butter:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ZE60GVxBcy.jpg

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Awesome! Thats super helpful and thank you for the pic! [emoji4] Super cool looking snake you have there.

I’ve heard that lesser/butter are the same (like banana and coral glow), but also read that even though they may look similar, they prove out differently and their supers have differences. Any insight?


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You are too fast lol I deleted that almost immediately. I posted in error, he's a butter pin, I had forgotten about the pin. Sorry for the confusion

yes lesser and butter are the same - same gene imported and proved out by two different breeders so they named it different things, but it's essentially the same gene.

I do still think yours may just be lesser banana and the stripe is normal variation, but again, others know more than me so I defer to them.
Only way to really know is to breed and try to prove it out. Otherwise it's a beautiful snake. :)

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I’m not sure about the Spider. He has no wobble and has no problem keeping/getting himself upright. From what I understand, that morph presents neurological issues that I haven’t observed in mine.

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I have no idea what morphs your snake is other than gorgeous. I just wanted to respond to this part. Not all spiders will show a wobble. I have a spider who has no noticeable wobble, she has no issues righting herself and rarely misses a strike at her F/T rats. It seems that people over exaggerate the wobble that spiders can show.

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I have no idea what morphs your snake is other than gorgeous. I just wanted to respond to this part. Not all spiders will show a wobble. I have a spider who has no noticeable wobble, she has no issues righting herself and rarely misses a strike at her F/T rats. It seems that people over exaggerate the wobble that spiders can show.

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Thanks! That’s interesting. I’ve heard/seen that some will have little to no signs, but from what I understand that’s not the norm. My apologies if this is not accurate information now. I think they’re a gorgeous morph but have been, for lack of a better phrase, ‘scared off’ by the gene’s associated neurological issues. Is this something that has perhaps improved over time by breeding spiders that don’t present those issues?

I’d love to see a photo if you have one! [emoji4]


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