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  • 09-04-2019, 01:35 PM
    SilasHorn'sHerptiles
    I haven't looked into how picky or unlikely to reproduce in captivity they are but if it's possible they would make amazing captive animals. A very reasonable size for a very amazing snake.
  • 09-04-2019, 02:25 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sur3fir3 View Post
    Viper Boa

    Another of mine too...thanks for reminding me. :D
  • 09-04-2019, 02:50 PM
    sur3fir3
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SilasHorn'sHerptiles View Post
    I haven't looked into how picky or unlikely to reproduce in captivity they are but if it's possible they would make amazing captive animals. A very reasonable size for a very amazing snake.


    From what I understand they are very difficult to breed. There is a CB one at the exotic pet store I visit, but its $400. I've been debating about it for the past month or so.
  • 09-04-2019, 02:55 PM
    SilasHorn'sHerptiles
    I definitely understand your pain.:P
  • 09-04-2019, 03:11 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SilasHorn'sHerptiles View Post
    Coachwhips is a great choice I didn't even think of those. We have them around here and I've seen a few definitely a gorgeous snake.

    They may be a "great choice" for us, but not for the coachwhips themselves. They're VERY active snakes that don't do well in captivity, & even in a large cage there's no
    comparison to the great open spaces & natural sunshine outdoors. (I've had one for a while...it had been turned over to me from someone no longer wanting it.) While
    a few dedicated keepers with a spare room (for a walk-in habitat for the snake!) may do alright, I'd HATE to see these sold as pets, because very few people will do right
    by them. :( That's MY first consideration, not how pretty the snake looks as someone's possession.
  • 09-04-2019, 03:18 PM
    SilasHorn'sHerptiles
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    I agree 100 percent for a hypothetical world where the husbandry is done perfect and they thrive I think they would be amazing but as of right now very few people could give them what they need to live full happy lives.
  • 09-04-2019, 03:31 PM
    MasonC2K
    Gopher tortoise. I used to keep them before they became endangered. They are easy to find in GA and FL if you know where to look.
  • 09-04-2019, 03:41 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Ringneck Snakes - they're SO stinkin tiny and adorable! But they're hard to keep in captivity :( I've seen a wild one on the famr, and a friend recently sent me a pic of one she found in her basement, but I told her to set it free outside (for some reason, since folks know I keep snakes, they seem to think they should also keep every garter and black snake in the area and give it to me as a pet lol)
  • 09-04-2019, 03:46 PM
    wnateg
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    They may be a "great choice" for us, but not for the coachwhips themselves. They're VERY active snakes that don't do well in captivity, & even in a large cage there's no
    comparison to the great open spaces & natural sunshine outdoors. (I've had one for a while...it had been turned over to me from someone no longer wanting it.) While
    a few dedicated keepers with a spare room (for a walk-in habitat for the snake!) may do alright, I'd HATE to see these sold as pets, because very few people will do right
    by them. :( That's MY first consideration, not how pretty the snake looks as someone's possession.

    That's really good to know. I almost bought one recently.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    Ringneck Snakes - they're SO stinkin tiny and adorable! But they're hard to keep in captivity :( I've seen a wild one on the famr, and a friend recently sent me a pic of one she found in her basement, but I told her to set it free outside (for some reason, since folks know I keep snakes, they seem to think they should also keep every garter and black snake in the area and give it to me as a pet lol)

    Yes!! I wish they were more hardy.
  • 09-04-2019, 04:27 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Introduce a new animal to captive breeding
    Re coachwhips:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    That's really good to know. I almost bought one recently...

    The other thing that won't be so convenient is feeding them. They are NOT constrictors, they gulp down their prey, & while they have a good-sized mouth & may accept
    f/t, they have a long skinny body that's not conducive to taking large prey, & since they're active by day (love warm sunshine) they're always hungry & always "grazing".
    They accept a varied diet, but with a fast metabolism that thrives on numerous small prey items (instead of one big meal every 2 weeks like many of our pets) they're on
    the messy side as a captive. So be careful what you wish for...a long beautiful snake that may live 20 years sounds great until you find out how often it needs to eat and
    how messy the large cage it needs will be, day after day. They get over 6' long & they're not real happy having "walls" around them. Just know what you're getting into.
    I think they're awesome in nature though. (they were local when I lived in So Calif desert)
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