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Aggressive Baby

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  • 06-06-2019, 11:03 AM
    Craiga 01453
    First off, ditch the separate feeding tub.
    Feeding tubs are old school and proven counter productive over time.

    I have been feeding my snakes in their enclosures since I started out in this hobby almost 20 years ago....
    I have never once been struck at by any of my snakes inside their enclosures.

    Feeding tubs will:
    A) increase the chance of the animal refusing food. Moving the animal = stress. Stress = refusal.
    B) increase the chance of the snake regurgitating it's meal IF it eats. Moving the animal = stress. Stress = regurge.
    C) INCREASE your chances of being bitten. IF the animal eats it will often remain in feed mode for as long as 24 hours or longer. So when you move the snake after it eats, guess who's hand gives off a similar heat signature as a mouse or rat...yup. yours...

    There is literally ZERO benefit to a separate feeding tub. Feed inside the enclosure. The animal is much more likely to eat where it feels comfortable.

    These are ambush predators who thrive on staying put and eating. They don't like to be exposed and handled before, while or after eating.


    Oh, and you haven't answered whether or not your heat sources are REGULATED BY A THERMOSTAT???
  • 06-06-2019, 12:04 PM
    TheAlpha
    Re: Aggressive Baby
    First off, I didn't join this forum to be bashed and ridiculed. Like I said, my first ball was a cakewalk compared to this one. She's the most easy-going, well-mannered snake I've been around. Never had any issues with her and I did what several educated articles recommended (http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Care...s/Ball-Python/, http://www.avianandexotic.com/care-s...s/ball-python/, https://www.bhbreptiles.com/pages/ba...hon-care-sheet, https://www.petco.com/content/petco/...ll-python.html) aside from tank size, in which case she had no issues anyway. I also understand that like other animals, each are different. Because this new girl was so different from the first, I wanted to seek advice and guidance. Not attitude.

    And to answer your question, no, I don't have a thermostat because I haven't had any luck with them thus far.
  • 06-06-2019, 12:14 PM
    Danger noodles
    Ok moose, now is when we let u loose! Lol
  • 06-06-2019, 12:18 PM
    Danger noodles
    Re: Aggressive Baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheAlpha View Post
    First off, I didn't join this forum to be bashed and ridiculed. Like I said, my first ball was a cakewalk compared to this one. She's the most easy-going, well-mannered snake I've been around. Never had any issues with her and I did what several educated articles recommended (http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Care...s/Ball-Python/, http://www.avianandexotic.com/care-s...s/ball-python/, https://www.bhbreptiles.com/pages/ba...hon-care-sheet, https://www.petco.com/content/petco/...ll-python.html) aside from tank size, in which case she had no issues anyway. I also understand that like other animals, each are different. Because this new girl was so different from the first, I wanted to seek advice and guidance. Not attitude.

    And to answer your question, no, I don't have a thermostat because I haven't had any luck with them thus far.


    Just trust me, we are here for ur animals safety, not to make u feel good inside about how well u have been doing. Just adapt and take the advice, because that’s what it is, advice, not criticism.
  • 06-06-2019, 12:37 PM
    pretends2bnormal
    Re: Aggressive Baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheAlpha View Post
    And to answer your question, no, I don't have a thermostat because I haven't had any luck with them thus far.

    3 of the 4 sources you listed are sites I've checked in the past and found to frequently post outdated practices (i.e. feeding tubs) or outright false information. Not all of it is wrong, but I no longer trust anything they say without significant verification first. I've not seen the BHB one before and didn't click through, so not sure there.

    Also, I have no idea how someone would not have luck with a thermostat. I'm truly baffled as to what that means. Can you explain what wasn't working more specifically? Wonder if it was a defective device or something else. (And if defective, surely it could be returned and replaced)

    They are a truly vital piece of equipment for keeping reptiles. Even recently on here we have seen the massive ugly infected burns that result from unregulated heat mats. It is far more expensive to treat and is negligent care that it could happen at all when equipment exists to prevent it.

    For your reference, I videoed the results of plugging in unregulated heat mats I have spare to show how hot they truly get. This is not unique to my heat mats nor is it staged to look bad.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...9&share_type=t

    If you need help getting a thermostat to work, we can certainly help. They're not always easy to figure out and there aren't always the best directions for them. Babies are also more sensitive to high heat and can definitely be contributing to the current temperament you're seeing.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
  • 06-06-2019, 12:42 PM
    Danger noodles
    if I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard this advice I’d be, well probably broke still but have some cool snakes!
  • 06-06-2019, 12:50 PM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: Aggressive Baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheAlpha View Post
    First off, I didn't join this forum to be bashed and ridiculed. Like I said, my first ball was a cakewalk compared to this one. She's the most easy-going, well-mannered snake I've been around. Never had any issues with her and I did what several educated articles recommended (http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Care...s/Ball-Python/, http://www.avianandexotic.com/care-s...s/ball-python/, https://www.bhbreptiles.com/pages/ba...hon-care-sheet, https://www.petco.com/content/petco/...ll-python.html) aside from tank size, in which case she had no issues anyway. I also understand that like other animals, each are different. Because this new girl was so different from the first, I wanted to seek advice and guidance. Not attitude.

    And to answer your question, no, I don't have a thermostat because I haven't had any luck with them thus far.

    Nobody is bashing or ridiculing. You asked questions, we offered advice.

    The links you shared are outdated.

    We are here to help. We care about these animals and are passionate about sharing our love for the hobby with others.

    It's important to understand the difference between surviving and thriving. Just because something works, doesn't mean it can't be improved.

    And do your snakes a favor and regulate their heating equipment. Google search snake burns if you need to. Thermostats are the most important piece of equipment you can have.
    I can't for the life of me understand how you haven't had luck with them. Set it up, dial it in and basically forget about it. Just check daily to make sure it's functioning properly.
    Look at the link provided above. There's simply not a reason to not regulate heat sources.

    So, since you're seeking advice and guidance, take the advice and guidance. Nobody gave any attitude. Only help.
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