Guesses, anyone? Part orange eyes?

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Originally Posted by Arlton

I’m not the best with morph identification what about a pastave with lesser or ghost that one kinda looks like mine just lighterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...85b9e90196.jpg


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Pretty sure it can't be a pastave + lesser or it would be a pastel blue eye lucy (lesser/mojave)

Not sure what it IS, though...

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Originally Posted by pretends2bnormal

Pretty sure it can't be a pastave + lesser or it would be a pastel blue eye lucy (lesser/mojave)

Not sure what it IS, though...

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yes, that's true.

also i'm not even sure that Bach, your snake in question is a Ghost visual. he doesn't have the blue tint or glow.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

yes, that's true.

also i'm not even sure that Bach, your snake in question is a Ghost visual. he doesn't have the blue tint or glow.

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I agree that I don't think he is ghost because his shed skins, while light, do have color to them. I was wondering, could he be an incubator oops or something? He does have the slight spider wobble when about to strike, which I also don't necessarily see spider so maybe a temperature issue may explain both his looks and his atypical neuro manifestations.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

yes, that's true.

also i'm not even sure that Bach, your snake in question is a Ghost visual. he doesn't have the blue tint or glow.

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Originally Posted by Tila

I agree that I don't think he is ghost because his shed skins, while light, do have color to them. I was wondering, could he be an incubator oops or something? He does have the slight spider wobble when about to strike, which I also don't necessarily see spider so maybe a temperature issue may explain both his looks and his atypical neuro manifestations.

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TBH i kinda think the breeder u bought him from might not be the best. Morph ID wrong for this snake, prob morph ID wrong w/ the clutch that had Mojo's or lost track of pairings, possible incubation/ issues (or heating or chemicals) that caused neuro issues, etc.

I can tell you what I don't see

Not a Mojave
Not a Ghost


Now what do I see

I see lesser the rest it's gonna have to be a mystery until you prove it out or forever

Now for those saying no Spider because no Spider head pattern, keep in mind some Spider have normal head pattern Black Pastel Queen Bee for example.

Bottom line you can't call this snake anything just like you can't call the person you got it from a breeder, while a breeder may not always know what's in a snake (and you may get an extra bonus) they don't sell an animal as Lesser Ghost and it does not resemble a Lesser ghost and it's not like it's not a mutation that has not been around for a long time.

To be fair to the individual I got Bach from, he told me he wasn't sure and admitted the label was most likely incorrect. He gave me an excellent price. He had a booth at the Portland, ME expo and a business name. I chose Bach for his health (the slight jiggle showed itself when feeding) and his interesting looks.

I wish only to share him as a point of interest. Parts of what draw me to snake keeping are the puzzling out over time the mysteries, the learning and the science. I learn so much from you guys and besides conundrums like this I wouldn't have much to share.

So I appreciate everyone's guesses, wrong or right, and if Bach ends up being a dad one clutch, I will let you all know what happens!

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