Brave new world of genetic editing for reptiles-

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Originally Posted by Ax01

or can this bring back a species from extinction or the brink of extinction? b/c that might be kool.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

This would be cool & something I was wondering too...it's just a real "double-edged sword" though.

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i think it's very obvious that the first thing we need to bring back are T-Rex's and 'Raptors.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I posted it as it's newsworthy, but I'm with you, honestly. Getting further & further from natural selection makes me uncomfortable.

There's so many GMO foods now, more than most of us realize...but the issues have been swept under the rug rather than openly addressed, & where profits are
involved, we know who's interest "matters" don't we?

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Humanity would be dead if it wasn’t for GMO’s. That term has unfortunately become primarily a marketing term. In reality almost all of our food has been genetically modified to resist disease/pest and/or have higher yield. For example strawberries are gmo as they exhibit extreme polyploidy to produce larger fruit. Seedless watermelons are produced by instigating aneuploidy. Many grains are altered to produce more and be resistant to pest and environmental changes. There’re a ton of examples, way too many to list. The people that claim not to eat any gmo’s are completely ignorant as that’s not even possible in this day and age. Even commonly eaten vegetables are “man made” through selective breeding and genetic alteration. This means that even organic vegetables are still technically genetically modified.


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^ yep that's true.

that reminds me of an old Simpsons episode where Lisa produces a giant tomato using steroids that can help solve hunger. well intentioned but i don't want to be pumped full of steroids. i think we could solve alotta problems like w/ world hunger if we can increase yield and size and distribution. there's ways u can use GMO's for good but then there are the agricorps or whatever use GMO's to copyright their veggies and seeds so that they cannot reproduce so we have to rely on buying their stuff after each harvest. it's scary if and when we lose the ability to reproduce crops b/c of modification. it can be used to solve problems, but it conflicts w/ profits.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

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Originally Posted by MarkL1561

Humanity would be dead if it wasn’t for GMO’s. That term has unfortunately become primarily a marketing term. In reality almost all of our food has been genetically modified to resist disease/pest and/or have higher yield. For example strawberries are gmo as they exhibit extreme polyploidy to produce larger fruit. Seedless watermelons are produced by instigating aneuploidy. Many grains are altered to produce more and be resistant to pest and environmental changes. There’re a ton of examples, way too many to list. The people that claim not to eat any gmo’s are completely ignorant as that’s not even possible in this day and age. Even commonly eaten vegetables are “man made” through selective breeding and genetic alteration. This means that even organic vegetables are still technically genetically modified.


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I realize there are many sides to this...and as someone already said, the "best use" sure isn't about making albino lizards, but they have to start somewhere.
I'm far from being "anti-science" & I was acquainted with a man (retired scientist) who worked on seedless watermelons way back when...(he has since passed away).

I'm actually really glad to have your knowledgeable input on this...it's not my field, unless you count "caring about nature" & "loving to eat"? :D

When it comes to food crops, I also know that the national & worldwide goals of "not running out" in the face of climate or pest issues is pretty important & the more crowded
we allow our planet to get, the more we have to rely on science to bail us out. I'm old enough to appreciate slower times when farmers could work with nature & grow
organically rather than dominating the process with chemicals & patented GMO seeds. While this yields a lot more, it also tends to result in monocultures (less diversity)
that actually puts the whole system at risk, not to mention that the farming run-off is causing massive die-offs in our natural bodies of water....I hope we humans can
figure it all out in time.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I realize there are many sides to this...and as someone already said, the "best use" sure isn't about making albino lizards, but they have to start somewhere.
I'm far from being "anti-science" & I was acquainted with a man (retired scientist) who worked on seedless watermelons way back when...(he has since passed away).

I'm actually really glad to have your knowledgeable input on this...it's not my field, unless you count "caring about nature" & "loving to eat"? :D

When it comes to food crops, I also know that the national & worldwide goals of "not running out" in the face of climate or pest issues is pretty important & the more crowded
we allow our planet to get, the more we have to rely on science to bail us out. I'm old enough to appreciate slower times when farmers could work with nature & grow
organically rather than dominating the process with chemicals & patented GMO seeds. While this yields a lot more, it also tends to result in monocultures (less diversity)
that actually puts the whole system at risk, not to mention that the farming run-off is causing massive die-offs in our natural bodies of water....I hope we humans can
figure it all out in time.

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Farming runoff would actually be worse without gmo’s because more herbicides and pesticides would need to be used. You’re correct in that it is a major ecological problem. I actually have a few coworkers that are looking into pesticide effects on amphipods. Monocultures are typically just a result of our farming methods and gmo’s don’t determine whether someone grows a monoculture or not. They’re easier to mass harvest which is why they’re so prevalent. That and cycling crops to ensure the topsoil remains fertile. Unfortunately our global population is too large for small scale organic farming to support everyone imo. Although we do need to find better ways to minimize ecological degradation though for sure.


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The topic is snakes not farming!

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Originally Posted by Ax01

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Originally Posted by ladywhipple02

My handle is RedHound #8284... bring it! I love this game lol

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oh crap! you're a Level 20 playa w/ all the best epic legendary and unique hybrids.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

The topic is snakes not farming!

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well the article was about gene editing for reptiles w/ Anoles as an example and Boger talks about GMO's in her first post, so i think talking about farming GMO is fair play and was apart of the natural flow of conversation and the thread.