Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
very good move on seperating them, you are laying an excellent path for becoming a responsible keeper by asking questions and taking advice. There is a never ending supply of knowledge here so don't be affraid to tap into it!
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
Another point that wasn't stated is that most of the pet store owners who actually breed their animals too are so overwhelmed with their work that they do things that shouldn't be done. Another thing that wasn't stated is that if one gets sick the other will get sick too and you have just doubled that two hundred dollar vet visit to four hundred. EX. Say you didn't clean or rinse an object in their tank or cage good enough and the chemical (this happened to me with bleach) you used gave the snake an RI now you have two snakes with RI and that can be really expensive.
Now, it's not that most of us haven't done this, but we have all learned the hard way not to do this. Even the famous Adam says on his website that he has done the multiple per cage thing and had accidental eggs. We have all learned that it is just safer, easier, and less stressful on the snakes not to do this.
~Jim
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
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Originally Posted by jim020cricket
Even the famous Adam says
Now was that really necessary?
-adam
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
Didn't mean to upset you, I was just trying to get the point across of learning from our mistakes. :hug:
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
being a newbie, I'm not sure if I should be adding my comments but here goes anyway (braces for the resulting salvos). I have my 2yr male and 9 month old female in the same terrarium. I have had no problems with either of them that I can tell. Either I've been lucky thus far or their home is large enough that they both have enough "breathing room". It's roughly 2'x2'x4 (~80gal)... just FYI, take it for what it's worth ok? :)
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
once again...why put the keeping of your animals on the shoulders of risk?? Lots of people will do what they want to do but if you really want to do what is right take the advice of successful keepers/breeders. This topic has been beaten bloody many times. There are just to many risks involved when keeping them together...if you don't care about the well being of your animals go ahead and let "luck" be your guide...for the rest of you who put forth the effort to be responsible keepers, I solute you.
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
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Originally Posted by lovemyBalls
I have had no problems with either of them that I can tell.
Key words .... "that you can tell". Give them some time, you'll see. ;)
-adam
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
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Originally Posted by TekWarren
...if you don't care about the well being of your animals go ahead and let "luck" be your guide...for the rest of you who put forth the effort to be responsible keepers, I solute you.
I don't know who you are and at this point don't really care, what I do care about is the implication that I am lazy, careless and unfit to own snakes. I have heard/read good arguments for both views on housing balls together, from "experts" and amatuers. What I have NOT seen until now is a supposed "expert" bash another person for merely stating their views or experiences...or is it normal practice to bash "newbies" for speaking? :(
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
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Originally Posted by lovemyBalls
I have heard/read good arguments for both views on housing balls together, from "experts" and amatuers.
What would a "good argument" for keeping two or more ball pythons in the same enclosure be exactly? And how were the "experts" that gave you those arguments?
If you rattled off a list of the 25 largest ball python producers in the world, you wouldn't find a single one that keeps more than one snake per enclosure.
I'm not bashing, just asking.
-adam
Re: Male and Female bp's residing in the same enclosure
Adam, I'm not trying to be an a$$ about things, and my main issue now isn't the multi housing, it's the seemingly rude behavior of others... I'll just leave my opinions to myself in the future and as pointed out, this discussion of housing is beating a dead horse so I'll drop it. Thank you for your thoughts on the matter and I will definitely keep a very close eye on both of them, as any responsible keeper would!
