Spider wobble

As long as people buy wobbly spiders: breeders will continue to produce them.

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Originally Posted by Lord Sorril

As long as people buy wobbly spiders: breeders will continue to produce them.

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Bingo!!! (I find them sad too & I would never intentionally breed any snakes that have such defects, no matter how lovable...sorry.)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Bingo!!! (I find them sad too & I would never intentionally breed any snakes that have such defects, no matter how lovable...sorry.)

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Exactly. If you look on MM, the only morph that has more postings than spiders are bananas which are popular right now.


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So what is the attraction with buying a spider? Color only?

They make pretty morphs.

Just like Albinos, Caramels, Cinnamons and all the combos that include those.

List I've found, may not be current, though..

http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php

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Originally Posted by MR Snakes

So what is the attraction with buying a spider? Color only?

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Yes, it’s just another aesthetically pleasing paint job. Unfortunately it comes with this defect that nobody really understands.

You can breed a spider to a normal ball and produce spider and normal offspring. The normal offsprings will be fine, the spider offspring will have the wobble. To me that’s a defect, a way of nature saying that this isn’t supposed to be. Same with the woma, super cinnamons and a few others.

I feel like until it’s figured out, they shouldn’t be bred in these massive numbers. Just my opinion.


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Originally Posted by Jbabycsx

Yes, it’s just another aesthetically pleasing paint job. Unfortunately it comes with this defect that nobody really understands.

You can breed a spider to a normal ball and produce spider and normal offspring. The normal offsprings will be fine, the spider offspring will have the wobble. To me that’s a defect, a way of nature saying that this isn’t supposed to be. Same with the woma, super cinnamons and a few others.

I feel like until it’s figured out, they shouldn’t be bred in these massive numbers. Just my opinion.


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I totally agree. This just seems to be an injustice to the snake.

Actually what I would really like to see is how many wild caught spiders have been found. From what I have read online, they have only imported one spider from Africa. NERD bred that spider and started the whole thing. If this is true and only one has been found, it’s a clear sign (to me anyway) that the animal can not survive and reproduce in the wild with this condition. Thoughts?


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Originally Posted by Jbabycsx

Actually what I would really like to see is how many wild caught spiders have been found. From what I have read online, they have only imported one spider from Africa. NERD bred that spider and started the whole thing. If this is true and only one has been found, it’s a clear sign (to me anyway) that the animal can not survive and reproduce in the wild with this condition. Thoughts?


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Sadly, those who would breed such animals have been rationalizing it by insisting that since they're only pets anyway, it doesn't matter whether they'd survive in 'real life'.
I couldn't disagree more..."nature" (ie. natural selection) gets it right & if anything happens to the wild populations** we won't be able to replenish them. :(
**What could go wrong??? Geez, habitat destruction, pollution, climate change (keep in mind that some diseases & vectors do far better in a warmer world).

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Sadly, those who would breed such animals have been rationalizing it by insisting that since they're only pets anyway, it doesn't matter whether they'd survive in 'real life'.
I couldn't disagree more...

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Would they rationalize the same way with a human life?


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