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More tags.. go me.

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  • 12-01-2005, 07:59 PM
    Shelby
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Well, all of my snake bites have been quick tag and release except for two. First one was the most memorable.. the 8' burm clamping down on my hand and not letting go for anything.. that lasted several minutes.. stinker!

    Second one was my baby honduran milksnake being a brat and chomping down as hard as she could before letting go!
  • 12-02-2005, 04:11 AM
    Razaiel
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Thanks, guys :) I guess I probably don't have too much to be concerned about with our little one then - she's a nice stress-free snake who seems to enjoy handling anyway.

    Vinnimac - I love your avatar - since I've seen that around the forum I've really wanted to get a Piebald - and even made a tentative enquiry to a breeder here in the UK here to see how much a baby one of them would be - I haven't had a reply yet but am dreading the ££££££'s
  • 12-02-2005, 08:58 PM
    Shelby
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Well here in the US a pied is around $6000-7000.
  • 12-03-2005, 06:49 AM
    Razaiel
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    Well here in the US a pied is around $6000-7000.

    *GULP*

    Well - at least that gives me a slight clue as to how much it would be here - time to start saving ...
  • 12-03-2005, 07:14 AM
    BiGBaLLiN
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    you should never ever ever even think about owning a hot!!! hehehe
  • 12-03-2005, 09:51 AM
    Schlyne
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    LOL. I got tagged earlier this week by one of my baby ball pythons. He managed to break the skin acutally, I was surprised by that.

    He decided to hide in the newspaper and my hand was apparently too close to his face.
  • 12-03-2005, 11:04 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Raz, instead of such a major outlay for an actual pied you might consider down the road getting a 1.1 (male and female) 100% het for pied and then raising them to breeding age and trying to hatch of a pied of your own. Long road to it with no absolute guarantees and you need to research breeding and so forth but that's they way we'll be doing it. Well unless I can sell a kidney that is LOL! (just kidding folks!)

    If you do ever decide to go the het route though, always buy from a good breeder with a sterling reputation and references. You can get majorily ripped off out there when it comes to hets as you can't "see" their genetics so are relying on the integrity of the breeder's records and word.


    ~~Jo~~
  • 12-06-2005, 04:31 AM
    Razaiel
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Raz, instead of such a major outlay for an actual pied you might consider down the road getting a 1.1 (male and female) 100% het for pied and then raising them to breeding age and trying to hatch of a pied of your own. Long road to it with no absolute guarantees and you need to research breeding and so forth but that's they way we'll be doing it. Well unless I can sell a kidney that is LOL! (just kidding folks!)

    If you do ever decide to go the het route though, always buy from a good breeder with a sterling reputation and references. You can get majorily ripped off out there when it comes to hets as you can't "see" their genetics so are relying on the integrity of the breeder's records and word.


    ~~Jo~~

    All the technical terms :( het?? I've seen it around the forum but am not sure what it is.

    I actually did a search and contacted a breeder here in the UK and he will have Pied babies next year and will be selling males (he didn't mention females - guess that's where the top bucks go) and will be selling them for £2,500 - £3,000 each (prob. about $4-5,000). So am unsure if I'll even have that amount of cash spare then (hell I got a house and 3 kids, 1 dog, 1 parrot, 1 ball and 3 lizards to support!!)

    If I did get him though, and bred him with Emily (100% normal so far as I know) I guess we would get a 50% pied.
  • 12-06-2005, 07:12 AM
    ddbjdealer
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Razaiel
    All the technical terms :( het?? I've seen it around the forum but am not sure what it is.

    Het stands for Heterozygous. It is an animal that carries the gene for a certain trait, but doesn't display the visual difference. (Homozygous)

    And so Rusty doesn't jump on me... Some visually different animals are also sometimes called Hets because they are Co-Dominant (Pastels, Lessers, etc..) and when bred to one another, they make a completely new looking animal (The Dominant form)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Razaiel
    If I did get him though, and bred him with Emily (100% normal so far as I know) I guess we would get a 50% pied.

    Piebald is a recessive gene, so... If you bred a Homozygous Piebald with a Nomal, you would get 100% Het Piebald babies. (All normal looking, but carrying the Piebald Trait)

    With a Co-Dominant gene, like pastel, if you bred a Pastel to a Normal, you would get about half pastels, and half normals (but none of the normals would be carrying the pastel gene)

    With a Dominant gene, like a Super Pastel (the product of two pastels), if bred with a normal, you would get all pastels.

    (Genetics is mind boggling 'eh??)


    .....as I'm writing this, I'm remembering RDR's journal entry for the month of December... lol.. for those of you who've read it...

    ...I'm such a poser! But at least I'm not a troll... I don't think anyway.. :)
  • 12-06-2005, 10:11 AM
    tigerlily
    Re: More tags.. go me.
    Rusty won't jump on you, but I think you're thinking of Randy. ;) But's that ok, I'll do it today. :lmao: :neener:

    Pastel is a codominant gene, and Super Pastel is just a homozygous form of the codominant gene. An example of a dominant gene is a spider. Otherwise you got the results right. :D

    If you want to look at some genetics info, here's a link to NERD's website. Scroll down to the genetics part and check it out. If you have any questions please ask. I actually never thought my genetics classes would ever be useful but boy was I wrong. (of course can't remember much past the basics, but that's as much as I really need so I'm good! ;) )

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/care.html
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