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Salt and Pepper

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  • 07-27-2018, 11:02 AM
    JodanOrNoDan
    The normal is outstanding. I wish I could get that coloration in a ball. Especially the eyes.
  • 07-27-2018, 11:59 AM
    AbsoluteApril
    these are rear fanged, correct?
    Really gorgeous, the black/red reminds me of an indigo
  • 07-27-2018, 04:04 PM
    Ax01
    stunning animals. just more on my want list. i like how the Pied gene works on Musuranna's - Pieds and Super Pieds.

    congrats on the new pickups.
  • 07-27-2018, 04:31 PM
    John1982
    Re: Salt and Pepper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    these are rear fanged, correct?

    Correct
  • 07-27-2018, 04:35 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Salt and Pepper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    They're kind of like the kings of central and south america. These specialize in feeding on other snakes(ophiophagy) in the wild and are even immune/resistant to the venom of their native vipers - these are bothrops destroyers - but are vulnerable to the venom of the corals as well as that of their own kind. Mussurana is the common name for snakes in the genus Clelia, which these used to be in until they got changed to Boiruna maculata. They're still called mussurana and sometimes false mussurana.

    Congratulations John, you just made many many "wish-lists" a bit longer! :D
  • 07-27-2018, 04:50 PM
    John1982
    Re: Salt and Pepper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    Where do you find this stuff that most of us have never even heard of?

    These kind of fell in my lap. A fellow bought a couple garter snakes from me and asked what else I kept. When I got to the female maculata he offered me these in exchange for some more garters. I had to dip into my holdback reserves but it was worth it!
  • 07-27-2018, 06:34 PM
    Slicercrush
    Very pretty snakes! You know you have a cool species when even the normals look absolutely stunning! Its always nice to see a few more species that I can spend time at work researching...:D:snake:
  • 07-27-2018, 07:07 PM
    Bogertophis
    BTW, while I'm not generally a big fan of pied (with a lot of white) or albino snakes, I really love the face coloration (silver-gray) on your super.
    Can you "make" me one that's all that color... :wuv: purdy-pleeze?
  • 07-27-2018, 10:49 PM
    Jus1More
    Re: Salt and Pepper
    I will have to agree John very nice! And I haven't heard of this species either, but you have me wanting to research them now! Thank you so much for sharing :)
  • 07-27-2018, 11:40 PM
    John1982
    Re: Salt and Pepper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    BTW, while I'm not generally a big fan of pied (with a lot of white) or albino snakes, I really love the face coloration (silver-gray) on your super.
    Can you "make" me one that's all that color... :wuv: purdy-pleeze?

    I wish, but you do get that color for a few days every shed cycle, haha. A neat tidbit about pied maculata, it's a naturally occurring trait. A WC super male is the founding parent for a lot, if not all, of the captive lines. I've also found a picture of a roadkill pied that someone took in San Javier, Santa Fe.
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