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  • 07-25-2018, 05:08 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Roommate Makes a Choice Between the Rats and a Snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    I am sure this will go over like a lead balloon here, but there is no moral difference in my book between killing a rat or a snake. If anything the rat is more self aware than the snake is so...

    If you are feeding rats, live, ft, whatever you have killed the rat.

    The only difference I see is that at least the rat's life is not wasted, it is being used for food. The snake was killed and not eaten or used in another useful manner.

    Well, yes and no. Rats that are pre-killed for food are gassed or killed by cervical dislocation, both of which are fast and painless if done correctly. When a snake kills a rat death is by cardiac arrest, and the feeder loses consciousness in seconds.

    OTOH stabbing the snake would be a very long and painful death for the snake, unless done by pithing the brain.
  • 07-25-2018, 05:27 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Makes you wonder what she could have done to him if he ate her food or disagreed with her? :rolleyes: .....obviously unhinged.

    I could not imagine living with a roommate.
  • 07-25-2018, 05:39 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Re: Roommate Makes a Choice Between the Rats and a Snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Well, yes and no. Rats that are pre-killed for food are gassed or killed by cervical dislocation, both of which are fast and painless if done correctly. When a snake kills a rat death is by cardiac arrest, and the feeder loses consciousness in seconds.

    OTOH stabbing the snake would be a very long and painful death for the snake, unless done by pithing the brain.

    The how of the death is where the real crazy comes in. Anything I have ever had to take care of has been done in the quickest most effective way possible at the time.
  • 07-25-2018, 05:49 PM
    ElliotNess
    Re: Roommate Makes a Choice Between the Rats and a Snake
    Why because people are stupid?

    If anything he should have vetted roommates better.

    The frozen debate is for the keepers convenience only and has nothing to do with the animal. Period.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    How pathetic & sad....and yet another good reason to feed pre-killed/frozen-thawed rodents.

  • 07-25-2018, 06:43 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Roommate Makes a Choice Between the Rats and a Snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ElliotNess View Post
    ...The frozen debate is for the keepers convenience only and has nothing to do with the animal. Period.

    What I meant by my earlier comment was...the roommate wouldn't have had a chance to bond with the live feeders had the snake owner used f/t.

    Obviously failed to adequately "vet" the roommate, & obviously, the rats die either way. I have had pet rats in the past, long before I got into snakes- they
    are intelligence creatures with more social skills than snakes & yes, they can make good pets. But nature is nature, & snakes cannot eat tofu...

    And yes, it's totally hypocritical for the psycho-roommate to have done this...do they also go around killing cats & dogs for eating meat? Irrational nut job.
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