I've Been SCAMMED!!!!!!!!!!!!

apparently ray also ships via usps which is illegal. i found this thread on him on the boi: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...=Rays+Reptilia. remember folks, it's always best to research before you buy from someone.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ghlight=TORRES

OHHH NOOOO

Ahhhh you beat me..lol

(moved to inquiries section)

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Originally Posted by Shelby

no Python-77.. one of the above links posted by J-ride doesn't work. Try the other one.

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cool just tried the other, regardless of what he got or states the website setup shows that if you pic this link you get this pic. he cheated you. now im not sure what legal action you have as he is pretty wordy and probley knows what the legal wording is and didnt break any real laws but I would make sure his bad rep is all over fauna.

I thought the same thing regarding "pictures are for illistration purposes only"... so PRIOR to purchasing I sent the email below:


Hi,
I'm interested in few femaqle yearlings. Can you please email me pictures of the females you have available? By chance do you have their weights?

Thank you,
Jared

His response was:

Pics pf them are posted at www.raysreptilia.com in the ball section ..They weigh in the 400 to 500 gram range.

Ray

jaredwrote:

Hi,
I'm interested in few femaqle yearlings. Can you please email me pictures of the females you have available? By chance do you have their weights?

Thank you,
Jared


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231femaleball

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Ray Torres
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www.raysreptilia.com
Fort Myers Florida 33907

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So I did pick out these specific snakes, and Ray was very aware of it. I want to do ALL I CAN do make sure it is VERY difficult for him to do bussiness like this in the future... What are my options??? He shipped them via DHL, unlabled... Can I contact DHL and inform them of his practices???

He no longer responds to my many emails or phone calls...

Thank you all for your help.

J-Ride
(Jared)

It is an unfortunate fact that the herp business is full of scammers and low lifes. Luckily there are more good guys (at least in my experience) than bad guys. It pays to check the BOI and be sure that the guy/girl you are dealing with hasnt screwed others. These people will always be around but if the kind of networking that we all have going on here and on other forums continues, it will make it harder and harder on them and hopefully drive them out of business. Sorry you got taken on this and hopefully Ray will come to his senses and do the right thing.

What's funny (not really) is that he has even relisted the same snake that I specifically asked for. It is #606, which is the far left picture in the ad. below from KS. What a Dirtbag.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=340861

With a little research, the fly by nighters are pretty easy to sniff out ... sometimes the security of buying from a "name" is worth the couple extra dollars! ;)

-adam

jared, if you haven't already you might want to consider writing up a report on your experience on the BOI on fauna.