RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?

I ordered mine from bean farm. They are bigger, textured, and the door is in front than in the size. To me they look better, no,warping, and thicker material.

I also use bean farm hides, been happy with them so far.

Mine are textured, but have the opening on the side (which I prefer)

No idea if anyone makes them anymore, have had them forever and like them SO MUCH MORE then the "new" slick ones that seem cheaply made...

Just like Reinz said, mine got unslicked after washing them. They do warp but they dont smell like anything. And as a side note, the jumbo hides are different than the smaller ones. They are a textured plastic on the outside and smooth on the inside. Other than having the warping issue, i have never had a problem with them.

This is crazy how inconsistent these are with everybody. I just checked my 9 new ones still in the plastic. Every size from small to Jumbo. They say V....E..
made jn china. All have a minor warp compared to my older ones. My Jumbos are not textured.

They maybe changing sources or the manufacturer is changing something in the manufacturing process like SDA said.

Also, keep in mind that these are probably stacked high within one another in big boxes stuffed in a shipping container. That’s a lot of weight that can give a “memory set” of warping during the slow boat from China. Which can mean varying degrees of warping depending upon where they sat inside the stack. For example, one pulled from the middle may have less warping than the bottom ones? I don’t know, just guessing.

This is how my old ones look. They are over 10 years old. No warping. Well made and sturdy and far more attractive then those cheap looking slick ones I've gotten recently...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e14462827.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...456f4397ab.jpg


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Originally Posted by Reinz

They maybe changing sources or the manufacturer is changing something in the manufacturing process like SDA said.
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I will tell you EXACTLYwhat they did, I make stamping dies and plastic injection molds for a living. These hide boxes are created via a plastic injection mold. As millions of parts are created and the die requires polishing several times, the mold wears out and requires a new cavity and core (which are the male and female halves of the die that create the part). The die was worn out and they remachined these halves with a closer tolerance in order to save plastic costs and prolong the life of the die.....welcome to the world of cheap, chinese mold making.

This is a section view of an injection mold

http://i66.tinypic.com/108bwbc.gif

The little circular bits of plastic people are talking about are "flash" or leftover material that flows out of the gate ( they direct area where plastic flows out to create the part. Crappy tolerances and poor die building creates this.

I couldn't tell you how many Chinese molds I have worked on over the years and the build quality is amazingly poor. Tolerances and quality go out the window in order to save money. If I had the time I would make my own molds and produce hides that I guarantee would last a lifetime.

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

I ordered mine from bean farm. They are bigger, textured, and the door is in front than in the size. To me they look better, no,warping, and thicker material.

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The thing with the offset doors is it gives the snake more of a feeling of security as the door isnt right there. They can go inside and to the side and feel like they are in a completely closed box.

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Originally Posted by zina10

This is how my old ones look. They are over 10 years old. No warping. Well made and sturdy and far more attractive then those cheap looking slick ones I've gotten recently...https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...9e14462827.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...456f4397ab.jpg


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My jumbo hides look like that but the bottom lip doesnt have a ridge on it like those do. They are just flat and smooth.

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Originally Posted by KevinK

I will tell you EXACTLYwhat they did, I make stamping dies and plastic injection molds for a living. These hide boxes are created via a plastic injection mold. As millions of parts are created and the die requires polishing several times, the mold wears out and requires a new cavity and core (which are the male and female halves of the die that create the part). The die was worn out and they remachined these halves with a closer tolerance in order to save plastic costs and prolong the life of the die.....welcome to the world of cheap, chinese mold making.

This is a section view of an injection mold

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/108bwbc.gif

The little circular bits of plastic people are talking about are "flash" or leftover material that flows out of the gate ( they direct area where plastic flows out to create the part. Crappy tolerances and poor die building creates this.

I couldn't tell you how many Chinese molds I have worked on over the years and the build quality is amazingly poor. Tolerances and quality go out the window in order to save money. If I had the time I would make my own molds and produce hides that I guarantee would last a lifetime.

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Weird part is mine dont have any flashing on them. I think Calm got ones made by drunk chinese on a friday at 4:50 PM :P