Reptile Expos

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Originally Posted by SDA

The amount of adult large snakes abandoned is enough to make you depressed.

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This shows how filthy and selfish many humans are. Poor animals, no laws to protect them.

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Originally Posted by SDA

Purely because of popularity. Breeding BPs are in right now. Don't even get me started how many people breed and/or sell these snakes that have no clue what they are doing and even more people buy them having no clue what they are doing.

Sad story... went to an expo this past weekend and as I was walking in some young kid was walking out with two green iguanas in his hands and someone else was walking behind him with a bird cage that they had bought as an enclosure (hint that is a really horrible enclosure for them). I am so glad larger snakes are still not as common as ball pythons. The amount of adult large snakes abandoned is enough to make you depressed.

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And the US government is launching an organized campaign to eradicate wild burmese pythons out of florida claiming they are invasive spieces. These poor snakes were born in florida for many generations now and sense tens of years. Florida is their homeland. Their ancestors did not just walk from Asia to Florida, they were brought in by american citizens. How can the US government still call them and claim that they are invasive species? Are european and african americans not invasive species? Yet those brutal acts of killings of the burmese pythons are widely supported by floridians. Although those snakes did not kill a singel human there. Disgusting!

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Originally Posted by Dutti

And the US government is launching an organized campaign to eradicate wild burmese pythons out of florida claiming they are invasive spieces. These poor snakes were born in florida for many generations now and sense tens of years. Florida is their homeland. Their ancestors did not just walk from Asia to Florida, they were brought in by american citizens. How can the US government still call them and claim that they are invasive species? Are european and african americans not invasive species? Yet those brutal acts of killings of the burmese pythons are widely supported by floridians. Although those snakes did not kill a singel human there. Disgusting!

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They are an invasive species because they did not evolve there. They are destroying native species that lived there long before their 'ancestors' did. Burmese pythons, iguanas, and other reptiles that do not originate from Florida are a real problem, and while I don't agree with culling the animals, there's only so much the government can do. Can't really relate people politics to animals in this.

ANYWAYS, back to the actual discussion: I'm going to my first expo in June and I'm hoping so badly there's old world colubrids for me to drool over. I highly doubt it, since I live far away from any major breeders of that sort, but one can dream!

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Originally Posted by Starscream

They are an invasive species because they did not evolve there. They are destroying native species that lived there long before their 'ancestors' did. Burmese pythons, iguanas, and other reptiles that do not originate from Florida are a real problem, and while I don't agree with culling the animals, there's only so much the government can do. Can't really relate people politics to animals in this.

ANYWAYS, back to the actual discussion: I'm going to my first expo in June and I'm hoping so badly there's old world colubrids for me to drool over. I highly doubt it, since I live far away from any major breeders of that sort, but one can dream!

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You are justifying a mass murder against an animal race. a gorgeous animal that sets on the top of the food chain. Do you know what I would have done if I was living in Florida? As a decent human being who knows that the earth does not belong only to humans, I would certainly have reacted to the brutal murdering of the wild Burmese pythons and other large constrictors in starting a breeding project of Burmese, retics, yellow anacondas and other large constrictors who would fit good in Florida,s environment, just to release the offsprings into the wild in Florida. This should be the answer of every snake loving human being

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Originally Posted by Dutti

You are justifying a mass murder against an animal race. a gorgeous animal that sets on the top of the food chain. Do you know what I would have done if I was living in Florida? As a decent human being who knows that the earth does not belong only to humans, I would certainly have reacted to the brutal murdering of the wild Burmese pythons and other large constrictors in starting a breeding project of Burmese, retics, yellow anacondas and other large constrictors who would fit good in Florida,s environment, just to release the offsprings into the wild in Florida. This should be the answer of every snake loving human being

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You can’t be serious... are you?
As a decent human being I would hope someone would have caught you and alerted the authorities. You can be an animal lover and respect the fact that those snakes are invasive and something needs to be done. Same with European starlings, sparrows, alllll sorts of animals and plants all over the world. They get brought somewhere and destroy the native flora and fauna. Do some research before making awful comments like you did above please.


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Originally Posted by Dutti

You are justifying a mass murder against an animal race. a gorgeous animal that sets on the top of the food chain. Do you know what I would have done if I was living in Florida? As a decent human being who knows that the earth does not belong only to humans, I would certainly have reacted to the brutal murdering of the wild Burmese pythons and other large constrictors in starting a breeding project of Burmese, retics, yellow anacondas and other large constrictors who would fit good in Florida,s environment, just to release the offsprings into the wild in Florida. This should be the answer of every snake loving human being

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snake-loving human beings caused the devastation happening in Florida. if you want to be mad at someone, blame us.

i love snakes, but the Everglades is a protected, delicate and endangered ecosystem with species of plants and animals we're still learning about today. Burmese are quite literally destroying the ecosystem, with no predators, and are killing countless native mammals to the point those animals might not exist there in 20 years. native bobcat are important, too. i want to protect the Everglades and its wildlife so they're still around for the next generation. if that means destroying an invasive species, so be it.

the Everglades > Burmese pythons

The BP explosion has been all over the shows for the last 15 or so years. I remember when I first got into reptiles 20 years ago it was the colubrid craze, everyone was breeding milk and corn snakes like crazy, all the tables were colubrids as far as the eye could see, so many new colors and morph combos.

(doing my best to continue to ignore Dutti's ridiculous comments, it's tough)

That's interesting, I've only been going to the expo only a few years now. I wonder which snake will be the next popular choice lol.

we always have 2-3 tables on dedicated Boa breeders. here's one w/ a Leopard Boa and Hypo Nic:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/APg4NyC.jpg
here's a big breeder. this is the long section of their table. the took up a two corners w/ their display:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/py19Lmf.jpg
i also see lotsa Sand Boa's, Rubber Boa's and Rainbow Boa's at our shows:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/44WDqNc.jpg

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Originally Posted by svtvenom

That's interesting, I've only been going to the expo only a few years now. I wonder which snake will be the next popular choice lol.

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my money is on SD Retics. SD's are in the hands of more keepers now and they're beginning to cross more Dwarf and mainland morphs w/ SD blood. :)

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Originally Posted by Dutti

You are justifying a mass murder against an animal race. a gorgeous animal that sets on the top of the food chain. Do you know what I would have done if I was living in Florida? As a decent human being who knows that the earth does not belong only to humans, I would certainly have reacted to the brutal murdering of the wild Burmese pythons and other large constrictors in starting a breeding project of Burmese, retics, yellow anacondas and other large constrictors who would fit good in Florida,s environment, just to release the offsprings into the wild in Florida. This should be the answer of every snake loving human being

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negged! no thanks. you're hurting the hobby/community when u say stuff like that and that's a really bad plan that would further devastate the 'Glades. Snow Leopards and Siberian Tigers are some apex predators that would do well in my neck of the woods. should they be introduced here in the PacNW? not thanks, not a good idea at all.