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  • 02-12-2018, 05:18 PM
    svtvenom
    The one thing I really like about the Boaphile, is the one single door that drops down. To me, it looks more sleek without having that middle bar that the AP cages have. That's the only thing stopping me from getting an AP.

    But, the odor that people are complaining about does kinda scare me away from the Boaphile.

    I just don't know which one to get. It's driving me crazy!
  • 02-12-2018, 05:28 PM
    dakski
    Re: Boaphile vs Animal Plastics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by svtvenom View Post
    The one thing I really like about the Boaphile, is the one single door that drops down. To me, it looks more sleek without having that middle bar that the AP cages have. That's the only thing stopping me from getting an AP.

    But, the odor that people are complaining about does kinda scare me away from the Boaphile.

    I just don't know which one to get. It's driving me crazy!

    Frankly, I would call AP and call Jeff at Boaphile.

    Price out what you need for your BCI. Size, heating elements, etc. Jeff is a BCI breeder, so he will have good advice on that, but many posts here about that as well. Also look at lead times, door design, etc. For feeding, I like sliding doors, but it's really not an issue with the opening out doors. Also very sturdy and easy to clean with those.

    Also, ask Jeff what his new material is and if it is better with stains/odors, etc. He seems like a very stand up and honest guy. I'd be interested in what he says too.

    I definitely think you will need a RHP and UTH for the hot side, and worth putting in a smaller UTH for the cool side - even if it barely runs. Cheap insurance.

    Also of note, Jeff and BP uses on/off thermostats and sells and recommends double thermostats. I have had good success with these, but he has a whole piece on his website about why her prefers the on/off ones. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND A DOUBLE THERMOSTAT/REDUNDANT THERMOSTAT! Totally worth the insurance of not losing an animal.

    Also, BP thermostats can run up to 1500 Watts, so many tanks. So, if you upgrade in the future to the same tank design, heating elements, etc. and same species (or one with similar requirements - like a BP) , you won't have to invest in another thermostat.

    Regarding the thermostats, I do not know what AP uses.
  • 02-12-2018, 07:13 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Boaphile vs Animal Plastics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by svtvenom View Post
    The one thing I really like about the Boaphile, is the one single door that drops down. To me, it looks more sleek without having that middle bar that the AP cages have. That's the only thing stopping me from getting an AP.

    But, the odor that people are complaining about does kinda scare me away from the Boaphile.

    I just don't know which one to get. It's driving me crazy!

    The middle beam gives it support so the cage doesnt sag over time. I had Constrictor NW cages with no middle brace and they sagged after about 3 years. Luckily i didnt have problems closing the door but another guy on this forum did and had to literally lift the center roof of his cage to close his door.
  • 02-12-2018, 07:15 PM
    Sauzo
    Well i can guarantee you will pay a lot more for an equivalent sized Boaphile cage with all the trimmings to an AP cage. My T10s were about $400 each with shelf, LED lighting, locks and flexwatt including shipping.
  • 02-12-2018, 07:40 PM
    svtvenom
    Dakski, thanks for the great info! I will most likely go with the bellyheat and then contact Pro Products for an RHP. I do have the Herpstat 2 already so I'm good on thermostats.

    Sauzo, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that was the reason for it. Since I'm spending so much on a nice cage I definitely don't want one that's going to start sagging. I'm going to go with the Animal Plastics! :D
  • 02-12-2018, 07:41 PM
    dakski
    Re: Boaphile vs Animal Plastics
    Good luck and keep us in the loop.
  • 02-12-2018, 07:49 PM
    svtvenom
    Thank you! I will.
  • 02-12-2018, 08:50 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Boaphile vs Animal Plastics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by svtvenom View Post
    Dakski, thanks for the great info! I will most likely go with the bellyheat and then contact Pro Products for an RHP. I do have the Herpstat 2 already so I'm good on thermostats.

    Sauzo, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that was the reason for it. Since I'm spending so much on a nice cage I definitely don't want one that's going to start sagging. I'm going to go with the Animal Plastics! :D

    Good decision imo but then I'm partial to AP cages as i got 9 of them lol.

    And in the future if you get anything over 4 foot in a cage, for sure get one with a brace. I have heard Vision cages have issues with sagging on stuff larger than 4 feet. One guy who had the 6 foot ones said when he stacked them, you couldnt even slide door closed on the bottom cage as it bound up. Plus other issues with Vision cages like a gap around the front top where snakes can wedge themselves into i guess. Again, i have no experience with Vision cages, just second hand from people i have talked to. I too did a lot of research when i was looking for new cages as i just dove in on my Constrictor NW cages and wasnt happy with them at all. I tried the AP cages as i heard nothing but goo stuff and after getting my first set, i loved how the little things werent overlooked like rounding off and sharp edges or corners so the snake couldnt cut of scrape itself if it pushed and stuff like that.
  • 02-12-2018, 09:06 PM
    dakski
    Re: Boaphile vs Animal Plastics
    Yeah, the sagging issue.

    I have 6X2’ boaphiles. But they are 3X2’ cages joined together. So I do not anticipate an issue.

    And although new to Boaphile, I have been very impressed. So I am biased too. Lol.
  • 02-12-2018, 10:16 PM
    Godzilla78
    I have to stop checking in on this thread... Enclosure envy. I have a really nice custom-built rack, that I love, but it is a rack, designed for a breeding project. NOT a display cage! And everyone reading this thread, knows why I would want a display cage like Boaphile or the like. o well, GOALS.
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