Pastel Clown Ball Python or not?

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Originally Posted by UKElliotSnake

Lovely snake!

I'm not qualified to answer either, but after having looked at a lot of examples of both on google id be questioning it too. Some pastels do have a lot more blushing than others it seems.

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Thank you, I’m guessing this has something, but no Pastel...

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

I'm not seeing a Pastel Clown BUT I am not thinking that is just a Clown either.....

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Same here, what would your guess be?

Absolutely. I still think the seller is responsible for selling something different. Though, in my case, I’m not looking for a refund or anything. I don’t like the Pastel gene anyway, I grabbed this for a very good price from an auction...

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i'm not sure about the Pastel; the eyes would be green and her head stamp does not match other Pastel Clowns. but there's definitely more than just Clown in her.

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I am thinking the same, but what could the other gene be?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

The blushing on that clown is nice but the head pattern (different clowns have very distinct head patter) and coloration are wrong for a Pastel Clown (not sure are a reputable breeder would miss that but I guess some do :rolleyes:)

Here are some pastel clown I produced for reference, see the head pattern

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...com/rtzyf5.jpg

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Thank you for the input. Do you think this animal has some other gene maybe?

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Originally Posted by amok

Thank you for the input. Do you think this animal has some other gene maybe?

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I would say there is a good chance, I have never seen a single gene clown with that much blushing, the problem is those days there are so many different mutation that are subtle and that produce very similar results that it would be hard to guess.

When you purchase the snake were you told what the pairing was?

Could that be a Black Pastel Clown?

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Beautiful snake! I see Clown, nothing else.

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Originally Posted by cchardwick

Beautiful snake! I see Clown, nothing else.

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Agreed, i can only see the clown. what was the pairing?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I would say there is a good chance, I have never seen a single gene clown with that much blushing, the problem is those days there are so many different mutation that are subtle and that produce very similar results that it would be hard to guess.

When you purchase the snake were you told what the pairing was?

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Unfortunately, the seller I got this from bought it from some overseas breeder. So, the pairing is unknown.

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Originally Posted by NPE76

Could that be a Black Pastel Clown?

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What makes you think it may have Black Pastel

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Originally Posted by cchardwick

Beautiful snake! I see Clown, nothing else.

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Thank you. I guess it is infact just a Clown. So, no chance there is Pastel here?

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Originally Posted by dylan815

Agreed, i can only see the clown. what was the pairing?

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Unfortunately, the seller I got this from bought it from some overseas breeder. So, the pairing is unknown.

Pastel Clowns and Killer Clowns have what i like to refer to as muertes skull or sugar skull headstamps. also not Black Pastel Clown either - they have bald heads and the colors are off.

i think it's just a blushed Clown and there's nothing else at work (unless it's influenced by being het for another recessive gene).