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I'm usually the guy telling people to turn the heat down but even I think that's too cool. If that was your night temp that would be fine. It gets pretty cool at night in their home range.

Overall you want to be within spitting distance of 80-81 degrees. Personally I think hot spots are a bit silly so I'll either use a wide spreading fixture combined with a CHE or a slightly larger than you'd think you need heat pad and just set it to 80-81 with a thermostat and I'm golden.

I have talked to professionals about the temps and they are fine. During the day they need to be high like you guys are saying, but during the night, just like in nature the temps drop.

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That IS the night temp.

Snakes absorb heat through the belly. That is why people use UTH's.

In the wild the temps do drop, but that doesn't mean that this is necessarily good for the snake. Snakes in the wild are very sluggish by morning, and that is because they aren't warm enough and need to heat up by being in the sun. If they could, I'm sure every snake would prefer that their air temperatures stayed warm 24/7.
Also, snakes get warm through the ambient temperatures whether they have belly heat or not. Having a UTH in addition to a CHE is much preferred.

Which professionals out of curiosity and what were their reasons for a required temp drop? Or what was the explained benefit of lower temps vs stable, consistent temps?

Even for a night drop, anything below 75 is considered unhealthy. They don't require night drop temps and prolonged exposure to colder temps like that could lead to a RI. There's a reason it's not normally recommended and why 75 is listed at the coldest acceptable temp.

The people in this forum, some of them are LITERALLY professional breeders. Which professional snake breeders are you talking to that told you that your temperatures are fine? If you have access to talk with the "professionals" then why are you asking us amateurs here at the forum for advice? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Smaugsmom

I have talked to professionals about the temps and they are fine. During the day they need to be high like you guys are saying, but during the night, just like in nature the temps drop.

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That IS the night temp.

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Did the professionals also tell you that in nature snakes usually don't make it to the full life expectancies that they do in captivity? Why because conditions in nature aren't always optimal nature is unpredictable so that's another factor to keep in mind. Cold is cold whether it's night or day if they could handle lower than recommended temperatures there wouldn't be so many posts about digestive and respiratory issues.

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im right but asking questions anyway but going to tell you I'm still right. Stop it, just stop it!

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Originally Posted by Smaugsmom

Snakes absorb heat through the belly. That is why people use UTH's.

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Reptiles absorb and lose warmth from any direction just like anything else.

The profile pic tells me all I need to know about, if the owner cares what’s in the animals best interest or not.