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Loosing his tamness

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  • 09-21-2017, 11:42 PM
    hollowlaughter
    Re: Loosing his tamness
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    Originally Posted by JustinGatCat View Post
    Pua tolerates handling pretty well. He's only snapped at me during shed like twice, but other than that, he moved around when he's out and flicks his tongue out and stuff. He also likes to climb up my arm and around my neck and chill there. He's still pretty young, 10 months old, so I'm pretty sure that he's got a ways to go in terms of "tameness".


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    Sorry I was a bit TL;DR there but the fact stands: if handling in regular intervals at controlled amounts wasn't leading to a stressed, huffy, fasting BP, the animal is likely inclined enough toward "favoring" or "tolerating" humans that handling it once a week won't cause any concerns. It's more likely that the husbandry may slip if you're not able to regularly check in on the animal, leading to THOSE factors causing stress and a loss of "tameness".

    Long as you keep the snake truly comfortable and don't leave it for months other than feedings, it should be fine.
  • 09-21-2017, 11:45 PM
    JustinGatCat
    Re: Loosing his tamness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hollowlaughter View Post
    Sorry I was a bit TL;DR there but the fact stands: if handling in regular intervals at controlled amounts wasn't leading to a stressed, huffy, fasting BP, the animal is likely inclined enough toward "favoring" or "tolerating" humans that handling it once a week won't cause any concerns. It's more likely that the husbandry may slip if you're not able to regularly check in on the animal, leading to THOSE factors causing stress and a loss of "tameness".

    Long as you keep the snake truly comfortable and don't leave it for months other than feedings, it should be fine.

    I make sure Pua eats properly, has enough water, heat/humidity is stable, and his tub is clean. It's just I don't have enough time to hold him everyday. He eats like a champ, sheds beautifully, and is a gorgeous snake. He's not at all puffy or hissy at all.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3e0cbc3dd2.jpg


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  • 09-21-2017, 11:49 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: Loosing his tamness
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    Originally Posted by JustinGatCat View Post
    I make sure Pua eats properly, has enough water, heat/humidity is stable, and his tub is clean. It's just I don't have enough time to hold him everyday. He eats like a champ, sheds beautifully, and is a gorgeous snake. He's not at all puffy or hissy at all.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...3e0cbc3dd2.jpg

    WOW! that is a male? Very thick build for a male. Age and weight?
    (Also, PM if you ever want to trade or sell! );)
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  • 09-21-2017, 11:55 PM
    JustinGatCat
    Re: Loosing his tamness
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2026d1ed4c.jpg

    He's 566 Grams and is 10 months old.



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  • 09-21-2017, 11:56 PM
    hollowlaughter
    Sounds like he'll be AOK, IMHO. Didn't mean for that to have an accusatory tone or anything, just usually a loss of "tameness" seems to come more from situations like "Yeah, I haven't been watching the temps closely..." more than "I can't handle the snake daily." in my experience.
  • 09-22-2017, 07:49 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: Loosing his tamness
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    Originally Posted by nrbosley View Post
    I don't necessarily believe any snake will ever "tame", just tolerate our handling it. Of course this toleration does facilitate calmness when handled frequently. However, I believe that once you as a keeper learn a snakes body language, proper approach and execution of enclosure removal becomes second nature and frequent handling becomes less necessary to achieve the level of "tameness" desired during a handling session. Just remember to keep these sessions short and positive and you'll never have to worry about a bite or any other negative experience when handling.

    I agree with just about all of this, however, I would add this regarding the last sentence...

    In my experience, my animals are extremely comfortable around me and tolerate handling as well as any snake can be expected to. However, the times I've been bitten were my fault because I was a little lackadaisical with my handling. So I understand your point and agree, just wanted to add my two cents.
  • 09-22-2017, 07:53 AM
    Craiga 01453
    You and Pau will be fine with the amount of handling you are able to do now. Your snake already has a docile disposition and as long as he isn't neglected that won't change. So keep up, with maintenance like you are and all will be good :gj:
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