Gender Question

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Originally Posted by Crowfingers

As a side question - genetically speaking my snake is a cinnamon mojave ( his paring was Dam: mystic and Sire: Cinnamon Crystal). So a pairing with a regular pied would produce all het pieds that are some combo of normal, mojave, cinnamon right? Or is there a chance the grandparents genes would also be expressed? (I think genetics are fascinating, just don't really understand them)

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the odds of that pairing:
Cinnamon Mojave x Pied =
25% Normals
25% Cinnamon
25% Mojave
25% Cinnamon Mojave

ALL will be het for Pied. no "grandsnarent" genes will be expressed at all.

So does that mean that the only genes that matter are the parents in all morph expression? It seems strange when compared with mammal breeding. But thanks for the reply!

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Originally Posted by Crowfingers

So does that mean that the only genes that matter are the parents in all morph expression? It seems strange when compared with mammal breeding. But thanks for the reply!

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yes, only the parents' genes matter

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

yes, only the parents' genes matter

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Except that a "het" snake is one that is carrying an unexpressed gene from its parents. If you breed two snakes that are het for a trait then some of the offspring will express genes from the grandparents. I interpreted this question as asking if it would be possible to see such an expression of hets. I'd say possible yes, likely no.

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

Brian from BHB just posted a video that stated all BP can come out as normal since all started from normals. Even with the new morphs. Chances are lower but it will always be there.

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I'm pretty sure he wouldn't say that, a super pastel can never produce a normal offspring.

Thanks for all the info. Though breeding isn't something I have time/$ to deal with it is still very interesting - also glad that the gender question is more of owner preference, that leaves more options available for me! :gj:

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't say that, a super pastel can never produce a normal offspring.

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Two days ago on his vlog. I'll get the link tomorrow.

I would add that some traits might carry over from the grandparents... in terms of size, health, etc... things not as obvious as morph / color / pattern. But no one has selected (to my knowledge) for those traits on a regular basis, so they might be randomly expressed as opposed to the line breeding you see in mammals like dogs, horses, etc. where you can expect a certain bone structure, muscle mass, etc.

I have males and females in the same room without problems. A pied female would give you more gloriousness because there'd be more to love. Lol
Baby beeps are adorable, but a big adult female is so worth having; big BP faces are beautiful.

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Originally Posted by DLena

A pied female would give you more gloriousness because there'd be more to love. .

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Yes I know, unfortunately (but not really) - I was unaware of the pied morph until after I bought my male...I saw my first one at the reptile show when I went to pick him up. Though I would not trade him for anything, it just made me realize that one was probably not going to be enough...