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  • 08-10-2017, 10:13 AM
    Staddon
    Re: What do you look for in purchasing a ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonBabes View Post
    Anything clown is good, its actually my favorite one gene!


    Yeah Clown is my favourite gene. I love Leopard too, though more when combined with other genes. Axanthic Leopard Clown would be phenomenal!!

    Id be geeking out massively if I could get that.
  • 08-10-2017, 01:52 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    I look for something that fits in my projects which mean it has to be hypo, pied or clown or gets for either.

    Second it has to aesthetically appealing to me, because it has the genes I need or want it dies not mean it will automatically be something I will had in my collection, I tend to be very picky when it comes to my animals.
  • 08-10-2017, 01:59 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Like others have said, don't go in too many directions. I sure have. I am playing with too many genes. Oddly enough what I found I enjoy more than anything else is breeding for size and temperament. There is probably no money in that endeavor but I like having big, mellow, easy feeding snakes.
  • 08-10-2017, 07:28 PM
    distaff
    Looking for a pretty normal, that is healthy, and mellow.

    Been posting here for a couple of years, and still don't own a BP, but that is what I'll go for when I purchase one. I very much admire some of the BP morphs, but a normal is what I want to own. I like goldfish that are fancy morphs, I like hairless rats, and many of the newer colours in parrots (esp. the pineapple greencheek conure), but for some reason, snakes almost always look best to me in their wild colours.

    That said, my cornsnake is a "plasma" - blood-red lavender, and I think his patternless silver pink is absolutely gorgeous.
  • 08-10-2017, 09:49 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: What do you look for in purchasing a ball python?
    I have normally picked up single or double genes only. They allow me to see how good an example of the gene is present without muddying it up with too many other genes. I would rather find two perfect single gene snakes, and breed them to create a beautiful double gene snake. I have only picked up one 3 gene snake ever and it was actually an Enchi Double het for Ghost and Clown. That said, it is a great example of an Enchi and I have seen the ghost and clown genes that are in play too. I spent two years looking for the right Pied. If you're truly interested in producing the finest snake and not just selling snakes, then remember that its a marathon, not a sprint. You shouldn't care if it takes three years to move to the next step as long as you achieve the desired result.
  • 08-11-2017, 01:05 AM
    hollowlaughter
    As a pet owner, the snake's personality was more important to me than morph.

    Though, if I do ever breed him I'm going to aim for a female with similar disposition as an experiment to see if the "wow he's so docile and happy he's not scary at all!" attitude is inheritable.
  • 08-11-2017, 01:12 AM
    The_Godfather
    How headshy they are factors heavily. I look for large docile females who I can watch tv with. That makes a perfect pet python.

    And nowadays only normals. I'm against how far we've taken morphs so morally I won't own one unless one needs a free home.
  • 08-11-2017, 01:23 AM
    The_Godfather
    My most beloved ball I got damn near out of the egg and she was my baby. Her death is why I haven't bought another ball yet, just not ready and I'm focusing on all my attention on new species right now.

    When I'm ready I'll raise another one but Goldy was one in a million.
  • 08-11-2017, 04:45 AM
    Staddon
    Re: What do you look for in purchasing a ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    I have normally picked up single or double genes only. They allow me to see how good an example of the gene is present without muddying it up with too many other genes. I would rather find two perfect single gene snakes, and breed them to create a beautiful double gene snake. I have only picked up one 3 gene snake ever and it was actually an Enchi Double het for Ghost and Clown. That said, it is a great example of an Enchi and I have seen the ghost and clown genes that are in play too. I spent two years looking for the right Pied. If you're truly interested in producing the finest snake and not just selling snakes, then remember that its a marathon, not a sprint. You shouldn't care if it takes three years to move to the next step as long as you achieve the desired result.


    Oh I am definitely not going to be sprinting with this. I have projects I want to try and I know that it will take several years to get the desired (if the odd gods are kind) results.
    I just wanted to "gage the terrain" so to speak.

    But from what I have seen people post I think I will stick to 2-3 genes that I like and try and produce healthy, calm and happy animals.

    :D

    I hope you either found or will find that holy grail Pied!!
  • 08-11-2017, 07:22 AM
    cchardwick
    There's a lot of different breeding strategies but I think the one that has the most impact on the hobby is the guy that takes a little known gene and works it into a bunch of other combos. That frontier style breeding is what really gets the attention of all of the other breeders out there. I've seen people pick up normals that have a slightly different pattern, breed and breed back to form a super which in some cases turns out bizzare, then gives that morph their own name and breeds it into all different kinds of morphs. I think that's how you can really stand out in the hobby, and when people see what you are doing they want to jump in on that project too.

    Right now I'm working with the Jungle Woma gene. Not many people even know about it. The super form is called a Puzzleback, looks sort of like a Leopard Pastel. Other genes I would consider 'frotier style' would be Tristripe, Scaleless, etc...

    I've been watching the ball python market for a couple years now and what was hot a few years ago is no longer 'hot'. GHI was all the rage and very expensive, now the market is flooded and prices have tanked. Still a cool gene, but if you buy hatchilngs today that are hot more than likely in three years when they are ready to breed that morph may no longer be the hottest thing on the market.

    Also, a lot of people are focusing on just one or two genes like pieds, clowns, axanthics, etc. JD Constrictors made the most famous snake on the planet, the 'Stormtrooper'. The only thing he works with is Axanthics.

    As far as multigene animals, personally I wouldn't care if I bought a muddy looking six gene snake. The point is not the appearance of the snake itself, it's the fact that one snake can produce dozens of different kinds of babies. You are selling the babies, not the six banger parent.
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