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  • 04-09-2017, 12:08 AM
    DustinS85
    Re: Provent-a-Mite too much or too little? How do you know?
    Would what I've done so far hurt it though?
  • 04-09-2017, 12:10 AM
    Oxylepy
    How dry is it? Is it very very dry? If so, add a clean water dish you should be fine.

    Check all the paper, though.
  • 04-09-2017, 12:13 AM
    DustinS85
    Re: Provent-a-Mite too much or too little? How do you know?
    I am gonna leave it set for a couple more hours then put it back. I did it at 8pm. You and I are in the same time zone.
  • 04-09-2017, 01:23 AM
    Oxylepy
    Do a touch test on everything. Do a sniff test on the whole area.
  • 04-09-2017, 03:11 AM
    EDR
    Re: Provent-a-Mite too much or too little? How do you know?
    If there is spray residue from the pam then i think you used to much. Is it dangerous to your bp? i can't say for sure but i won't put one of mine in a over sprayed tub. I'd wipe down the inside of the tub slot and clean the tub get a fresh start. As for the spraying all you need to do is a quick left to right spraying of the tub. Keep the can a good two foot or one and half foot distance from the tub while doing the quick left to right and that's it. Its been a long time since i've needed to use pam. Whenever a bp did their business i would clean out the quarantine tub throw away the paper put new paper in then give it a quick spray and they go away no problem. Of course you need to give it some time. Getting rid of mites with pam isn't a one day thing. Also i'd leave the water bowl out of the tub for a bit whenever you spray it. At the most a couple hours or a least a half hour like jordan said its up to you. That's about it. I assume you separated him from the rest if you got others just keep him separated and you should eventually beat the mites pam does work. Also with respect to what others are saying you don't need to spray things in your house just spray the tub.
  • 04-09-2017, 05:22 PM
    DustinS85
    Re: Provent-a-Mite too much or too little? How do you know?
    I woke up and saw that there is condensation from water in its bin thatI sprayed. It isn't displaying signs of toxicity to the chemicals; it's acting completely normal. I have problems with the bin he lives in condensing like that. I thought it was his water dish, but I didn't put the water dish in last night! I touch tested the whole thing before putting it in and there was no wet or dampness anywhere, now it is condensed all over.
  • 04-09-2017, 05:27 PM
    Oxylepy
    PAM says you can straight wash and mist it. You'll be fine.

    So it regularly builds up humidity like that? On my own rack each tub has 4 holes in it on one of the two short sides. In the winter the holes point in, in the summer they point out. It controls my humidity perfectly
  • 04-09-2017, 05:37 PM
    DustinS85
    Re: Provent-a-Mite too much or too little? How do you know?
    Yeah, I drilled some holes and since it pooped last night I put new paper down and sprayed. I moved it to a different bin for the next few hours.
    Also, when I retreated I think I may have breathed a little of the PAM vapor......Is that going to be a problem for me?
  • 04-09-2017, 05:48 PM
    Sauzo
    First off, I would keep the humidity to just house humidity until you are done treatments. Mites need humidity. So leaving your tubs a little on the dry side wont hurt the snake for a couple months but will aid in killing the mites. Second, you can spray it inside the tub. I personally would recommend it but the key is to spray lightly. Don't soak the tub, a little goes a long way. Remember PAM is a poison. I personally use paper towels as it makes it easier to see any dead mites. I just lay paper towel down in the QT tank and lightly spray it. I try to avoid direct spray on the glass and hides as it seems the stuff takes forever to dry on those surfaces. Cover the top of the tub after you spray to let the fumes settle on the walls and stuff. After about 15 mins, uncover it and let it dry. Also what you can do is spray it on a rag and wipe down your rack and the outside and rims of the other tubs. That will put up a barrier. I do that around the bases of all my cage stacks once a month as preventative. And finally I would leave the water bowl out of the cage for the night just incase you miss a spot and it didn't completely dry. If the snake crawls across it and then somehow into his water bowl, you will have a problem.

    As for breathing PAM, I have done it accidently. Not fun lol. My chest tightened a little for about 20 mins but otherwise I was fine. Avoid breathing in fumes.

    Oh and another thing, you need to do this every week for about 2 months to make sure you get rid of them. Then for the next 6 months as preventative, like I mentioned, I would wipe down the outside of the rack, tubs and rims with PAM on a rag every month. That way if you did have any loose in the house and they try and get to the snakes, they will die before they reach them.
  • 04-09-2017, 05:49 PM
    Oxylepy
    It is toxic in its spray form. But that depends how much you inhaled. When you kill an animal with it, you are puttinf them in an enclosure where most of the air is fumes, which kills them. Same would go with a human being, if you were in a room where most of it was toxic fumes, you'd likely die.

    Now, inhaling some of the fumes is bad for you. But it is highly unlikely you inhaled so much you'll have serious issues.

    If your tub is coated in it (in other words, under the paper as well), don't bother respraying the tub for a month, unless you have to scrub it out really well. Then just lightly spray any substrate (or don't spray it at all, up to you), let it dry, and then put it in the tub. Personally I feel that if your substrate is something thin like paper, you shouldn't even need to spray it, the mites will come in contact with the poison.
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