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  • 12-25-2016, 09:27 PM
    piedlover79
    Snakes are not social. Your female will be happier on her own. Two males will fight and mate themselves to death if never given a break from the female

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    Snakes are not social. Your female will be happier on her own. Two males will fight and mate themselves to death if never given a break from the female
  • 12-25-2016, 09:37 PM
    MrsLove
    Yes, I am well aware of all the assumptions in my previous post...But hence the title of "Not sure what to do..." I'm asking for advice. We "assume" she died from getting to cold when drinking since we found her by the water dish, and we didn't have good enough heat in there that night. Since then we have gotten better heat lamps and such. We know our other is about to shed since she is showing all the signs of such. So that may be the reason for her not eating nor moving. I had picked her up and looked her over, when I placed her back she just curled up and didn't move. Not normal for her before the passing of the other one. After placing the others in, them eating last night, I once again got her out to look her over for any changes. Once she was placed back in she moved around and since has been where ever one specific male we brought home has been. Hence my "assumption" of her being depressed. Now if I'm wrong please do say so...But please give me more than go read basic charts and that I need accurate information. For you did not give any. I am trying to get this right for the good and safety of all 3 snakes here.
  • 12-25-2016, 09:41 PM
    MrsLove
    I have read that they are not social, and per my asking the person I received my first one from before getting another she said it would be fine for them to be in the same space. And I am not aware of breeding specifics, but had been told there are several things that have to be done before they will breed to begin with. But we do not wish to breed at this time, nor in near future, so we do plan on getting them space. But for now the 75 gallon tank we have is all we have.
  • 12-25-2016, 09:47 PM
    MrsLove
    Re: Not sure what I should do...
    Well, last I checked, a rat does not cost near what a tank, bedding, heating and lighting does. As per all my posts...We did not expect to be getting these animals. So when we received them as gifts and told it had been 2 weeks since the last feed, we stopped and got food for them. Which was roughly 20.00. Now if you can get all the necessary things for even a temporary housing set up for them for that price, since we are short on funds atm...then please inform me of where and how. I did not come here to be criticized for trying to get information on how I should handle a possible overfeeding, which I take full blame for.
  • 12-25-2016, 09:54 PM
    Calider
    Female is definitely stressed. I can guarantee it. If the males aren't already crowding the hell out of her, they will be soon, and they may fight as well... This is really not the kind of situation you should wait with... They are ALL going to be stressed out if they aren't already... And with the one that had a second helping, that stress may kill him...
  • 12-25-2016, 09:57 PM
    Calider
  • 12-25-2016, 09:57 PM
    cletus
    Re: Not sure what I should do...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrsLove View Post
    Well, last I checked, a rat does not cost near what a tank, bedding, heating and lighting does. As per all my posts...We did not expect to be getting these animals. So when we received them as gifts and told it had been 2 weeks since the last feed, we stopped and got food for them. Which was roughly 20.00. Now if you can get all the necessary things for even a temporary housing set up for them for that price, since we are short on funds atm...then please inform me of where and how. I did not come here to be criticized for trying to get information on how I should handle a possible overfeeding, which I take full blame for.

    Nobody is criticizing you. You asked and the answer is to separate them. You don't need to buy more tanks and lighting. Just get some Steralite tubs. I just bought a 28 qt tub for less than 7 bucks from Home Depot. Put some sort of water bowl in there. Paper towel or something like that for substrate. You would need to provide belly heat and regulate it with a thermostat. If you cant swing the heat and thermostat right now just having them separated is a good step in the right direction. Especially since one just died and you don't know why. Nobody is busting your balls here. You said you weren't sure what to do. They were telling you what you should do.
  • 12-25-2016, 10:13 PM
    MrsLove
    Re: Not sure what I should do...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GoingPostal View Post
    How were you able to get rats to feed them and not able to get something to put them in? Talk about the cart before the horse. I'd be concerned about a lot of things, disease, cannibalism, mating/fighting, on top of the stress of digesting with a newly acquired overfed improperly housed animal. I'm sure you have totes or plastic containers of some sort, separate the snakes asap.

    I found this to be critical. I have already admitted to being new, so letting me know to separate them ASAP would probably need to be at the top. I have already said I didn't have any place else to put them so saying I did wrong by feeding them first and how could I afford that but not something to put them in is very rude and disrespectful. In my mind...I was thinking, OK these 2 and another one was in a home together already, they haven't ate recently, the stress from the drive and new place, they may attack my female or each other. So if I can get them fed we may reduce that a little bit. But as I was visiting family almost 4 hours away funds were short. So instead of the snide comment about putting the cart before the horse...Was not needed, nor was the newly acquired overfed improperly housed animal needed. A simple yes you did wrong, I suggest separating asap, and to watch for signs of these things would have helped way more than pointing out very obvious things that I have already stated in a rude way.
  • 12-25-2016, 10:15 PM
    MrsLove
    As also I would like to add, I can not aquire anything more right now until the morning at least. All stores are closed until at least 6 am here due to Christmas.
  • 12-25-2016, 10:17 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Sell the 75 gallon tank as it is WAY too much space needed.
    Use that to buy either smaller tanks or the easy route of 28qt tubs for the males and a 41qt for the female.
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