Male Or Female More Dominant?

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Originally Posted by kxr

Yeah, I saw that. Deb has a pretty cool website already. Although I don't know her too well I kinda doubt she'd be interested. It does kinda peak my interest but I don't have anything you'd be interested in. Plus I'm just starting out haha I'm only one clutch deep into breeding and I'm just starting to build up my own little breeding collection. Maybe in a few years if you're still active on here you can build a website for me ;) probably not for animals though... I'm not a fan of the idea tbh

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Well, you are leaps and bounds ahead of me! lol I haven't kept snakes for about 7 or 8 years now and I have missed having them ever since I got rid of them. I had Boas and honestly, they just got too big and expensive to feed and there was jumbo rat shortages half of the time (locally). So, I don't even have any snakes right now. :( But, that is about to change real soon! :)I've been considering getting into breeding for a long time and I finally got inspired enough to move forward with it. Ball pythons are much more reasonable to work with than big snakes in my opinion. So, i'm currently designing and building two separate rack systems and trying to decide if it would be feasible to breed my own feeders, while i'm determining the most sensible starting point for snakey poos. Basically, i'm wanting 2 of just about everything I see right now! lol But, I think I have it narrowed down to a few. I definitely want Axanthics and Super Sumas! Clowns and Leopards, too...

By the way, do you guys have any idea what an Axanthic x Suma Het for Axanthic (or vise versa) offspring might look like? Would that just produce all Axanthic and Mahogany offspring or would it create a really cool morph? Like say, all black with silver markings or all black with different shades of black markings, etc? Perhaps the Axanthic could strip away all of the black from the Suma and end up with a silvery type color, possibly with black markings? Seems very interesting to me...

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

Well, you are leaps and bounds ahead of me! lol I haven't kept snakes for about 7 or 8 years now and I have missed having them ever since I got rid of them. I had Boas and honestly, they just got too big and expensive to feed and there was jumbo rat shortages half of the time (locally). So, I don't even have any snakes right now. :( But, that is about to change real soon! :)I've been considering getting into breeding for a long time and I finally got inspired enough to move forward with it. Ball pythons are much more reasonable to work with than big snakes in my opinion. So, i'm currently designing and building two separate rack systems and trying to decide if it would be feasible to breed my own feeders, while i'm determining the most sensible starting point for snakey poos. Basically, i'm wanting 2 of just about everything I see right now! lol But, I think I have it narrowed down to a few. I definitely want Axanthics and Super Sumas! Clowns and Leopards, too...

By the way, do you guys have any idea what an Axanthic x Suma Het for Axanthic (or vise versa) offspring might look like? Would that just produce all Axanthic and Mahogany offspring or would it create a really cool morph? Like say, all black with silver markings or all black with different shades of black markings, etc? Perhaps the Axanthic could strip away all of the black from the Suma and end up with a silvery type color, possibly with black markings? Seems very interesting to me...

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From what I know about axanthic (which isn't too much because I have too many other projects on my mind XD) the browns & yellows turn into the grays & whites in the axanthic while the blacks stay black. Imo an axanthic super suma would likely be an all black snake with maybe a white/gray dorsal stripe where the orange stripe usually is. There is really no way of knowing for sure though until one gets produced though (I'm assuming none have been produced and that's why you're asking). If that's something you want to pursue then maybe you'll be the first one to find out!

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Originally Posted by kxr

From what I know about axanthic (which isn't too much because I have too many other projects on my mind XD) the browns & yellows turn into the grays & whites in the axanthic while the blacks stay black. Imo an axanthic super suma would likely be an all black snake with maybe a white/gray dorsal stripe where the orange stripe usually is. There is really no way of knowing for sure though until one gets produced though (I'm assuming none have been produced and that's why you're asking). If that's something you want to pursue then maybe you'll be the first one to find out!

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Yup... I'm thinking I might end up being the first... That is going to be a ways down the road, though i'm afraid... I am going to have to get a pair of Mahoganies and raise them up then breed them to hopefully end up with an all black Super Suma. Then raise that up in order to breed it with an Axanthic. Aaargh! I sure wish I would have gotten into this a looong time ago! lol

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

Yup... I'm thinking I might end up being the first... That is going to be a ways down the road, though i'm afraid... I am going to have to get a pair of Mahoganies and raise them up then breed them to hopefully end up with an all black Super Suma. Then raise that up in order to breed it with an Axanthic. Aaargh! I sure wish I would have gotten into this a looong time ago! lol

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You could always attempt to find an axanthic mahogany female then you'd only need a mahogany male. You could breed a mahogany het male offspring back and BAM! you might end up with axanthic super sumas haha. That'd be ~5 years instead of like an 10 year thing lol. Also if I were you I'd get a mahogany male and an axanthic female and work from there. You could get a male and female mahogany het axanthic in that clutch and you'd only end up waiting for two females to mature instead of 3.

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

Yup... I'm thinking I might end up being the first... That is going to be a ways down the road, though i'm afraid... I am going to have to get a pair of Mahoganies and raise them up then breed them to hopefully end up with an all black Super Suma. Then raise that up in order to breed it with an Axanthic. Aaargh! I sure wish I would have gotten into this a looong time ago! lol

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Three thoughts: :)
1) Not "Super Suma" - just "Suma". It stands for SUper MAhogany, so saying Super Super Mahogany is kinda like saying ATM machine. If you like the Super part, then Super Mahogany is also acceptsble.

2) Your road towards an Axanthic Suma becomes MUCH shorter if you start raising up some Axanthic stuff now rather than waiting until you've produced a Suma to start. Either way it's a long road though unless you can find Mahogany het Axanthic or even Axanthic Mahogany animals somewhere.

3) We all have to start somewhere. Might as well enjoy the journey no matter when we joined the party, right?

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Three thoughts: :)
1) Not "Super Suma" - just "Suma". It stands for SUper MAhogany, so saying Super Super Mahogany is kinda like saying ATM machine. If you like the Super part, then Super Mahogany is also acceptsble.

2) Your road towards an Axanthic Suma becomes MUCH shorter if you start raising up some Axanthic stuff now rather than waiting until you've produced a Suma to start. Either way it's a long road though unless you can find Mahogany het Axanthic or even Axanthic Mahogany animals somewhere.

3) We all have to start somewhere. Might as well enjoy the journey no matter when we joined the party, right?

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Thanks for setting me straight on that about the Sumas... lol But, yes... Axanthics are definitely #1 on my list either way. People don't seem to be doing a whole lot with Mahoganies, though. So, finding one that het for Anxanthic probably isn't very promising. I'm definitely going to keep my eyes open, though! :)