Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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dissolvetheair23
You will never know until you try the breeding. There are certainly some WC ghosts around that are not standard orange ghost compatible. Good luck and enjoy the fun. I certainly know of dh clutches being produced by breeding two visuals together but they are rare.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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Originally Posted by
yardy
You will never know until you try the breeding. There are certainly some WC ghosts around that are not standard orange ghost compatible. Good luck and enjoy the fun. I certainly know of dh clutches being produced by breeding two visuals together but they are rare.
Thank you i look foward to proven a possible new line of ghost. She seems to have more contrast darker appearance and doesnt have that ghost hazy, in shed look to her.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
This wild caught ghost is lovely. Personally, I would try and retain the purity of the line, and therefore also breed it to normals or non-hypo animals to make hets.
Warren
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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Originally Posted by
Warren_Booth
This wild caught ghost is lovely. Personally, I would try and retain the purity of the line, and therefore also breed it to normals or non-hypo animals to make hets.
Warren
With Warren on that. I have a pair of hets from a new African Ghost line; it is known to be orange ghost compatible but with my ghost (hypo) obsession I am keeping them separate. I already have a pair of non OG compatible green ghosts (lovely animals), a general orange ghost group and the RH line ghosts that I prefer to work with - nothing all that special genetically, just some really good ghosts being refined to my tastes by selective breeding and fully compatible with general OG.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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Originally Posted by
yardy
With Warren on that. I have a pair of hets from a new African Ghost line; it is known to be orange ghost compatible but with my ghost (hypo) obsession I am keeping them separate. I already have a pair of non OG compatible green ghosts (lovely animals), a general orange ghost group and the RH line ghosts that I prefer to work with - nothing all that special genetically, just some really good ghosts being refined to my tastes by selective breeding and fully compatible with general OG.
So how would i go about proving thats its a new line of ghost since i see many different features this wilf caught has from all the other ghost lines. She has drastic contrast and granite pattern with no haze or shed appearance.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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dissolvetheair23
So how would i go about proving thats its a new line of ghost since i see many different features this wilf caught has from all the other ghost lines. She has drastic contrast and granite pattern with no haze or shed appearance.
If you are seeing distinctive characteristics then you will need to line breed with her as a starting point. This is obviously much slower using a female. Select a (non-ghost) male to breed to her that you think will enhance what you are seeing as different that you want to emphasise ( this is where nice normal males have a role) and go for it. You will need to keep back the babies and make more hets using a different male the following year (to keep the bloodline fresh) and hopefully by the year after you will have a het son ready to pair with her and see what you get from that. You will need to selectively breed out while retaining what you want from the line. Then rest her the year after (if she wants it - she will have earned a year off by then) and start breeding her daughters, but accept that you will make some unsaleable 66% hets along the way. When you have established that breeding a son back to the mother does indeed preserve the characteristics that you want (and that she isn't just a one off) then yo can look at naming your line of ghost and making it available to other people.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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Originally Posted by
yardy
If you are seeing distinctive characteristics then you will need to line breed with her as a starting point. This is obviously much slower using a female. Select a (non-ghost) male to breed to her that you think will enhance what you are seeing as different that you want to emphasise ( this is where nice normal males have a role) and go for it. You will need to keep back the babies and make more hets using a different male the following year (to keep the bloodline fresh) and hopefully by the year after you will have a het son ready to pair with her and see what you get from that. You will need to selectively breed out while retaining what you want from the line. Then rest her the year after (if she wants it - she will have earned a year off by then) and start breeding her daughters, but accept that you will make some unsaleable 66% hets along the way. When you have established that breeding a son back to the mother does indeed preserve the characteristics that you want (and that she isn't just a one off) then yo can look at naming your line of ghost and making it available to other people.
Thank you for your help this is very detailed explanation, seems like its gonna be a long wait but very well worth the wait. I wonder where all the unwanted poor 66% hets end up in the ball python breeding business. :O
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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dissolvetheair23
Iwonder where all the unwanted poor 66% hets end up in the ball python breeding business. :O
pet homes. A lot of breeders have local pet shops they wholesale normals to for the pet market
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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StillBP
pet homes. A lot of breeders have local pet shops they wholesale normals to for the pet market
True as long as its not petco that place is ball python graveyard.
Re: Need help identifying what line of Ghost ball python
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dissolvetheair23
Thank you for your help this is very detailed explanation, seems like its gonna be a long wait but very well worth the wait. I wonder where all the unwanted poor 66% hets end up in the ball python breeding business. :O
I end up keeping a lot of mine as it is easier than you might think to spot some of them. Theoretically I can then sell as proven breeder hets (well the females at least); the males tend to get sold privately as pets.
