Which morph would hold its value better in the long term?

While he price will always drop on any mutations (supply and demand) recessive however will maintain their value longer and it is the case for both of those now the key to sell and make a return is to go beyond single gene pieds or single gene clowns.

If you want to know which retain their value better you obviously want to make a return whether it is for your collection to pay for itself or make extra cash and in that case you will have to invest, upgrade your collection, and know the market, but most importantly you should be passionate and work with what YOU like.

I mainly work with both clowns and pieds and if I had to pick one I would pick Pied simply because I prefer them over clowns even though Clown combos do command higher prices.

Yes.

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If you want to know which retain their value better you obviously want to make a return whether it is for your collection to pay for itself or make extra cash and in that case you will have to invest, upgrade your collection, and know the market

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So with that, I ask. Me collecting all pretty much single gene or two gene animals at the moment in hopes to produce my own multi gene morphs down the road, means I'm making a huge mistake that'll put me even more behind the curve. So I should try putting a multi gene snake into the mix now?.. I've got my eyes on the prize. I love my animals but I would love to turn a profit out of this passion as well.

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So with that, I ask. Me collecting all pretty much single gene or two gene animals at the moment in hopes to produce my own multi gene morphs down the road, means I'm making a huge mistake that'll put me even more behind the curve. So I should try putting a multi gene snake into the mix now?.. I've got my eyes on the prize. I love my animals but I would love to turn a profit out of this passion as well.

Sorry for the hijack.


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Well is it a collection, or do you plan on breeding to sell? If you are looking to get a double gene pied or clown, you're likely going to pay over $1,000 just depending how long down the road. Then if you get a baby, you still have to raise it up and prices can potentially fall, just depending on which genes. You may want to do a bit of researching on recessive, because you start dealing with visuals, hets, possible hets and all this will factor into a price. So go with what you want to have down the road and base your decision off of that.

So ask yourself:
1.) Price Range
2.) Breeding or Collection
3.) How long before you want to produce a visual

Then you can go from there.

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So with that, I ask. Me collecting all pretty much single gene or two gene animals at the moment in hopes to produce my own multi gene morphs down the road, means I'm making a huge mistake that'll put me even more behind the curve. So I should try putting a multi gene snake into the mix now?.. I've got my eyes on the prize. I love my animals but I would love to turn a profit out of this passion as well.

Sorry for the hijack.


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Not a mistake I have said it before you have to find your niche, I have a very good friend who does this for a living, he works with a bit of everything and still produces some of the basic combos, and while he produces pieds the only combos to date he has been producing are black pastel pied and this year was his first year producing clowns, yet he has been doing this for a long time and his doing good.

Your collections does not have to be all recessive or clown and pied in particular because they are sought for there is room for all type of projects so long you pick the right animala, set goals and are selective when it come to your pairings.

Thank you Deborah, you're the best. :)

and Neal, my collection is just that, a collection. That seems to be growing month to month lol... but I do plan on using them to create a small business too. So they are pets that I adore, that will help make me some money too. Is that wrong? ... trust me, my love for them comes first.... and plus by breeding, I will get free holdbacks to keep in my collection! Lol

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Thank you Deborah, you're the best. :)

and Neal, my collection is just that, a collection. That seems to be growing month to month lol... but I do plan on using them to create a small business too. So they are pets that I adore, that will help make me some money too. Is that wrong? ... trust me, my love for them comes first.... and plus by breeding, I will get free holdbacks to keep in my collection! Lol

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Oh no, I only asked if collection or breeding to sell because that can point you whether you get a het, or a visual. It all depends on how long you are willing to wait for results.

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Oh no, I only asked if collection or breeding to sell because that can point you whether you get a het, or a visual. It all depends on how long you are willing to wait for results.

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That part is fairly simple,invest in a female visual.Then you raise her and breed her to whatever multigene male you want,keep the best looking male and breed him back to the mom. That's how you'll get the quickest results.

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Oh no, I only asked if collection or breeding to sell because that can point you whether you get a het, or a visual. It all depends on how long you are willing to wait for results.

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I am going to go the slow way and try and make my own multi gene combos. I've got my Bumblebee that paired to my Pastel Enchi will make some good stuff and I have an Orange Dream Yellowbelly female coming to me in about a week. So while I won't have any super awesome 4 or 5 or 6 gene stuff anytime soon, I will definitely have a chance to produce some really clean looking 2 and 3 gene morphs, to get my toes wet. Those alone should at least pay for my hobby and have some good holdback opportunities to grow on. 2 or 2.5 years down the road of course. .. unless I decide to get a jumpstart and I buy a breeding size female or two. Or 3. Lol!


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As someone who looks to purchase new snakes regularly...

All i can say is that I personally will pay above market price for a truly quality animal. Significantly so if the animal is absolutely stunning.

Like I just checked MorphMarket for orange dreams. The single gene OD male I would take home was priced 50% higher than the cheapest ODs listed. Even higher than a few multi gene animals. That holds true for me for pretty much all the morphs.

Call my crazy, but I would happily drop a few hundred dollars even on a bumblebee - if it were a good one. Actually right now on morph market the bumble bee I would take home has a single other common gene and is priced at $650. I'd happily pay that.

I think a lot of snake buyers are like me in that way. Who wants a pastel that looks like a normal no matter how cheap it is?

I would think that if someone were looking for their collection to hold its value and be profitable, then the quality of the genes matter just as much as which genes you work with.

That's just my totally uneducated $0.02.