Not good.... R.I. isn't clearing up on it's own

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Originally Posted by Marla

But I disagree that antibiotics are the answer to every infection or that it is not possible for any captive bp to completely rid itself of an RI given enough time and care.

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Well then I defer to your vast experience working with these animals. Sounds like you've got it all covered.

-adam

Easy kids.

Disagreement is quite fine and is in fact inevitable.

But lets ALL play nice :P

Venomously sarcastic dismissals seem to be a growing trend I'd like to discourage

Well, you certainly are in the lead for the "most sarcastic post" contest, I see. I hope you win.

Is it so hard for you to believe that someone other than yourself might have some knowledge about physiology and immunology? I grew up surrounded by research doctors, immunologists, epidemiologists, and professors, and have training in medicine myself. I helped edit medical journal articles when I was in high school, for crying out loud. I am not unfamiliar with the concepts involved in general immunology, nor some of the specifics. I will readily grant you that there are many ball python keepers with more experience than I with that specific animal, but that does not mean that I am completely ignorant on the subject.

I for one, am quite the rookie when it comes to herps, and like many others on here look to you veterans for your vast amount of knowlege. So much of what I know has come from you guys.

Aren't we all on here to share our knowlege and express our thoughts opinions and concerns on certain issues, in a constructive manner? Sometimes there is no one right answer, sometimes there is, sometimes it's a judgement call... but in the end, it all boils down to what's best for our herps.

Group hug? :tears:

Isshinharu FOR THE WIN!

Seriously - NO ONE including mods and admins needs to be so contentious or defensive in their posts.

No one here intends to lead folks into bad husbandry practices.

Most folks seem to recognize that there is more than a single approach or solution - whether it be substrate, type or state of prey, type of housing (I tell you I used to get constantly PUMMELED for keeping in glass - as it was just BS - worked just fine until the number of herps went through the roof and then it became a question of maintenance), etc etc.

Cmon, Issh lets go mix some 'ritas.

Just my little newbie opinion here but please folks I do understand strong opinions and sometimes typing before thinking and all that, but when these threads go from sharing information to obviously sarcastic, tense posts you make new owners like me start avoiding asking questions for fear that the thread will end up like this (and it's happening more frequently lately for some odd reason).

Please please remember that your experience (varied as it may be) is what helps so many newcomers like my family to have wonderful experiences, helps keep our snakes healthier than they might otherwise be and may well be one of the most important resources we have as we learn to be good, responsible snake keepers.

For the more experienced of you, it's a wonderful place to pass on knowledge, to share your achievements in breeding, your disappointments, the gains or losses of this hobby/business or just to relax and talk about these fascinating creatures.

In the end, isn't that what this forum is all about?


~~Joanna~~

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Originally Posted by Smulkin

Isshinharu FOR THE WIN!

Seriously - NO ONE including mods and admins needs to be so contentious or defensive in their posts.

No one here intends to lead folks into bad husbandry practices.

Most folks seem to recognize that there is more than a single approach or solution - whether it be substrate, type or state of prey, type of housing (I tell you I used to get constantly PUMMELED for keeping in glass - as it was just BS - worked just fine until the number of herps went through the roof and then it became a question of maintenance), etc etc.

Cmon, Issh lets go mix some 'ritas.

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i agree with you as for there being more than one approach to things. as for the getting pummeled for keeping in glass i dont understand that one i keep both of mine in glass and they do just fine. everyone says they want opinions but when some of the people give their opinions they are pummeled just because it is not what the other wanted to hear. if you dont want to hear dont ask and if you do then dont pummel the people that do tell you their opinions on the subject. everyone is different and no one person is 100% right and does no wrong. i agree with frak... (i forget the rest of the name) when she says it is scaring people to not even want to post and ask a question and that is what the forum is all about ... sharing and recieving new information to take better proper care of herps. i dunno maybe you should add a debate forum just for these occasions ;) jk. im new to snakes and i know it but i know that i do take advice from the people here...in a way...and watch the way my snakes behave and them ballance it out. what one person says about a snake may not be right for my snakes (because they are individuals) but i try to reavaluate the situation from the advice given to see if it will work with my snakes. (and just for the record i know that i can not spell...that was my worst subject in school :) ) but to those who do give insightful and respectful advice i really do thank you for that.

Bullseye.

Thank you very much for that eloquent statement, Joanna.

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Originally Posted by Egyptian_Sphynx

i dunno maybe you should add a debate forum just for these occasions ;) jk.

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Whew, could you imagine? lol There sure would be a lot of :mad: :devil: :twisted: :evileye: :frustrate :tears: :fork: :bonk: emoticons used in there. :P

I for one think debates are best left to PM's. I'm an advocate of posting thoughts and opinions publicly and then letting the individual herp owner make the final decision on what is best. There's no sense in dissension.

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Originally Posted by Isshinharu

Whew, could you imagine? lol There sure would be a lot of :mad: :devil: :twisted: :evileye: :frustrate :tears: :fork: :bonk: emoticons used in there. :P
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Dang Issh, you got the emoticons down! :)