Het question

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

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In the particular case of the toffino enchi I'm getting would it's offspring be het for both albino and toffee or just one or the other? Does it depend on what its paired with?

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The answer absolutely does depend on the what your Enchi toffino is paired with. Remember that each parent gives each baby one gene from each gene pair. One gene from each parent reestablishes each gene pair in the baby.

You might try seeing the differences when using the OWAL calculator to mate the Enchi toffino to each of the following:
Enchi normal (= Enchi)
Enchi het toffee
Enchi het albino
Enchi toffee
Enchi albino
Enchi toffino
normal
het toffee
het albino
toffee
albino
toffino

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Originally Posted by paulh

The answer absolutely does depend on the what your Enchi toffino is paired with. Remember that each parent gives each baby one gene from each gene pair. One gene from each parent reestablishes each gene pair in the baby.

You might try seeing the differences when using the OWAL calculator to mate the Enchi toffino to each of the following:
Enchi normal (= Enchi)
Enchi het toffee
Enchi het albino
Enchi toffee
Enchi albino
Enchi toffino
normal
het toffee
het albino
toffee
albino
toffino

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She would be paired to a toffino pinstripe

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Pinstripe toffino male mated to an enchi toffino female is a genetics problem that requires 3 gene pairs to solve:

Pinstripe toffino male:
gene pair 1 = a pinstripe gene paired with a normal gene
gene pair 2 = two normal genes
gene pair 3 = a toffee gene paired with an albino gene

Enchi toffino female:
gene pair 1 = two normal genes
gene pair 2 = an enchi gene paired with a normal gene
gene pair 3 = a toffee gene paired with an albino gene

Answer (from the calculator at OWALReptiles):
Male: Pinstripe, Toffino
Female: Enchi, Toffino

Percent Fraction Traits
6.25% 1/16 Toffee, Stinger Blast (stinger blast is pinstripe enchi)
6.25% 1/16 Enchi, Toffee
6.25% 1/16 Pinstripe, Toffee
6.25% 1/16 Toffee
12.5% 1/8 Stinger Blast, Toffino
12.5% 1/8 Enchi, Toffino
12.5% 1/8 Pinstripe, Toffino
12.5% 1/8 Toffino
6.25% 1/16 Albino, Stinger Blast
6.25% 1/16 Albino, Enchi
6.25% 1/16 Albino, Pinstripe
6.25% 1/16 Albino
Expected fractions. The actual results may be more or less different from the expectation.

There are neither het toffee nor het albino babies in the answer. And as you can see, the result of a pinstripe toffino x enchi toffino mating is considerably different from the result of a normal x enchi toffino mating.

I'll have to play around on owal calculator. Idk if I'm going to breed in the future or not, I would like to at least hatch 1 or 2 clutches but if I'm going to spend money on a male to breed her with I want to make sure it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

I'll have to play around on owal calculator. Idk if I'm going to breed in the future or not, I would like to at least hatch 1 or 2 clutches but if I'm going to spend money on a male to breed her with I want to make sure it's worth it.

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Breeding is only worth it financially if you're willing to spend the money and have the jump on high demand. My plan is to start next year and what I'm hoping to produce are more for my collection and what I like to look at than anything.


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Originally Posted by BMorrison

Breeding is only worth it financially if you're willing to spend the money and have the jump on high demand. My plan is to start next year and what I'm hoping to produce are more for my collection and what I like to look at than anything.


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I don't see a lot of toffino out there. The toffino enchi I'll have within the week caught my eye and was something I needed to have but she came at what I considered a steep price, $1000. I want to at least hatch 1-2 clutches to see how I like it and where it goes, I really like the different morphs that I've seen with toffino in them. Breeding will be something I do for different morphs I want in my collection but the toffino is more for my curiosity but like I said I really like the different toffino morphs. I have the space and money for anything that comes up, I'll be able to save money on building racks since I'm handy and have access to $45 PVC. I'm not worried about making money. Nothing I have is old enough yet to breed but when they are I will have hatchling racks built, hot box incubator, and like I said I have the funds for vet bills and food along with supplies and anything else that comes up. The biggest problem I'm having is pairing, with the amount of morphs out there it is confusing when it comes to picking pairs. I'm fairly new so I still have a lot to learn about morphs/genetics.

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

I don't see a lot of toffino out there. The toffino enchi I'll have within the week caught my eye and was something I needed to have but she came at what I considered a steep price, $1000. I want to at least hatch 1-2 clutches to see how I like it and where it goes, I really like the different morphs that I've seen with toffino in them. Breeding will be something I do for different morphs I want in my collection but the toffino is more for my curiosity but like I said I really like the different toffino morphs. I have the space and money for anything that comes up, I'll be able to save money on building racks since I'm handy and have access to $45 PVC. I'm not worried about making money. Nothing I have is old enough yet to breed but when they are I will have hatchling racks built, hot box incubator, and like I said I have the funds for vet bills and food along with supplies and anything else that comes up. The biggest problem I'm having is pairing, with the amount of morphs out there it is confusing when it comes to picking pairs. I'm fairly new so I still have a lot to learn about morphs/genetics.

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Yeah I know what you're saying. Money also is not an object for me or any of that for what I want. I misread it a little, used to a lot of people jumping in and wanting to breed right off the drop not realizing you're typically gonna take a loss without an extensive knowledge of the market and what you need to accommodate that market.


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