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Heat question?

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  • 06-19-2016, 07:58 PM
    chrid16371
    Re: Heat question?
    Also you absolutely must unplug the uth until you get a thermostat or something else to regulate temp. Your night heat bulb will keep the cage warm until you get one. Also I recommend you buy a acurite 00891, you put probe on hot side under bedding and place the rest of the unit on the cool side and it will give you hot temp, cool temp, and humidity and then you can use your other probe thermometer for on top of bedding.

    Again unplug uth until you have a thermostat or something to regulate the temp. Good thermostats listed in order starting with my most recommended are Spyder Robotics Herpstat 1, Reptile basics VE-200, Reptile basics VE-100, inkbird itc-308. If you can afford it definitely go with one of the first 2.

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  • 06-19-2016, 08:01 PM
    BMorrison
    Re: Heat question?
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...f0d4e1be95.jpg

    Get something similar to this here although they don't make this one anymore I don't think?

    However in a 40g breeder like I used to use before my rack systems set the temp to about 95-96.3 the hottest area they'll be able to touch is 91 give or take a hundredth of a degree. They WILL burrow. I use aspen as a substrate and under their hides in their tubs they will push ALL of the substrate out and lay on the tubs. They will do the same thing in a tank!


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  • 06-19-2016, 08:27 PM
    Yzmasmom
    Re: Heat question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrid16371 View Post
    Get a thermostat and make the temp under the bedding no higher than 94, then above your bedding should be around 88-90. If you are not getting 88-90 then you need to thin out the bedding over the hot side which is something you can't do with carpet and another reason to get rid of it. You need a ir temp gun or another probe thermometer so you can monitor the temp under bedding and on top.

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    OK. Thermostat is on and the temp is dropping because yes, it was way too high. It's not a super expensive one. Not digital, but we will keep an eye out to see what the temp is when it turns back on and adjust accordingly. Then, tomorrow I will get another thermometer to tell the temp of the surface in her hut. (I will move or get rid of the ambient black light if needed to get the surface temp to 88-90.) I like the dim light since I can see her with it and it's so dim it doesn't bother her.

    The temp on the cold side reads 83 degrees at the surface, just outside her hut. It's with the 75watt ambient black light. Should it be at the surface IN the cold side hut or is it ok where it is?
  • 06-19-2016, 08:42 PM
    Yzmasmom
    Re: Heat question?
    OK. Thermostat is on and the temp is dropping because yes, it was way too high. It's not a super expensive one. Not digital, but we will keep an eye out to see what the temp is when it turns back on and adjust accordingly. Then, tomorrow I will get another thermometer to tell the temp of the surface in her hut. (I will move or get rid of the ambient black light if needed to get the surface temp to 88-90.) I like the dim light since I can see her with it and it's so dim it doesn't bother her.

    The temp on the cold side reads 83 degrees at the surface, just outside her hut. It's with the 75watt ambient black light. Should it be at the surface IN the cold side hut or is it ok where it is?
  • 06-19-2016, 08:52 PM
    chrid16371
    Re: Heat question?
    What thermostat did you get if I may ask? Something is better than nothing. You want the thermostat probe between the uth and the bottom of your cage, that's if you got a thermostat and not a rheostat since a rheostat doesn't have a probe. Where you have your cool side probe is fine, 83 is about the hottest you will want it on the cool side so if you need to get a lamp dimmer for the bulb. What is your humidity at? Also what brand thermometer are you using?

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  • 06-19-2016, 09:16 PM
    Yzmasmom
    Re: Heat question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrid16371 View Post
    What thermostat did you get if I may ask? Something is better than nothing. You want the thermostat probe between the uth and the bottom of your cage, that's if you got a thermostat and not a rheostat since a rheostat doesn't have a probe. Where you have your cool side probe is fine, 83 is about the hottest you will want it on the cool side so if you need to get a lamp dimmer for the bulb. What is your humidity at? Also what brand thermometer are you using?

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    It's impossible to get the thermostat probe between the glass and the uth.... the uth is already stuck on. We put the thermostat probe next to the thermometer probe on the bottom of the tank.

    I use zoomed digital thermometers with probes and I ha e a zoomed Reptitemp 500R thermostat.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The uth is under the tank, not inside.
  • 06-19-2016, 09:26 PM
    chrid16371
    Re: Heat question?
    You will need to peel the uth back a little and just push it in, I have done it multiple times and have even moved them to other enclosures. Just barely peel it and push probe in and press uth back into place. You don't want probe inside bc snake can bump it and then it would be just like the uth wasn't even on a thermostat.

    I will tell you I own quite a few of those zoomed thermometers and after I got a ir temp gun and acurite 00891 I realized they were off by 5-10 degrees on some. Not one was under 5 degrees off. That was my experience with them and all the thermometers I have used labeled for reptiles. Also I would monitor your thermostat closely. I had 2 that were very in consistent, they were set at 90 and would drop 5 degrees and heat back up to 93+ and then drop 5 degrees again and go up sometimes only 2 degrees sometimes to unsafe levels before it shut off again so my experience with them were not good so I switched to lamp dimmers until I bought a reliable one. I can't say the same will happen to you but pay close attention. I would order the inkbird itc-308 from amazon, it is only around $30-40 and will only drop 1 degree before it starts heating again making so your temps dont fluctuate a lot and just keep package and receipt to the zoo med thermostat and return it once you get the inkbird. Just my opinion.

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  • 06-19-2016, 09:26 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Fluid/urine will change the reading of the probe on the thermostat, this is the reason you don't want it inside the enclosure.

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  • 06-19-2016, 10:40 PM
    Yzmasmom
    Re: Heat question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Fluid/urine will change the reading of the probe on the thermostat, this is the reason you don't want it inside the enclosure.

    http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psp2koldrd.jpg

    ok, thermostat is set and seems to be holding the temp under all the bedding around 91 degrees. So, tomorrow I will grab another thermometer so I can know what the surface temp in her hut is, and I will boost or remove the ambient black light to do that.

    I set her up yesterday and he bedding comes already moist. Her humidity has been at 70 since yesterday. Should I just wait while it dries out to about 50-60 before I mist?
  • 06-19-2016, 10:50 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Heat question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Fluid/urine will change the reading of the probe on the thermostat, this is the reason you don't want it inside the enclosure.

    Yep. Your snake can also get tangled in the cord and pull the probe away from the heated area. Always put the t-stat probe outside the enclosure.
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