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Feeding to much?

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  • 05-30-2016, 12:29 AM
    Crowfingers
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Yeah, that's what I thought, but was wondering what weight everyone else stops using that "rule". Mine has been on smalls for a while now. He is around 625-650 grams currently, and the rats that I ordered last time ranged from 53-94 grams, and I still had a few wean rats left (44-50g).

    I feed the smallest first so I don't waste any. The 75-90 gram rats still look much wider than his widest point, though I admit that I still find it hard to measure his food that way (especially since the rats are frozen and kind of flat). I've been feeding every 5 days since he was being offered things less than 8% of his body weight, planned on switching every 7-10 days when he eats things around 8-10% of his body weight, I have never felt the need to feed more than 10% of his weight... Luckily he finished all the weaned rats last week and went into shed again, so he'll be on the smaller smalls for a while. By the time I get to feeding the 75+ gram rats he will be very capable of handling them (I probably baby him and worry about prey size a little too much too:P)
  • 05-30-2016, 06:26 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crowfingers View Post
    Yeah, that's what I thought, but was wondering what weight everyone else stops using that "rule". Mine has been on smalls for a while now. He is around 625-650 grams currently, and the rats that I ordered last time ranged from 53-94 grams, and I still had a few wean rats left (44-50g).

    I feed the smallest first so I don't waste any. The 75-90 gram rats still look much wider than his widest point, though I admit that I still find it hard to measure his food that way (especially since the rats are frozen and kind of flat).

    So your weights are a good bit off.
    31-45 is weaned
    46-79 is small

    The weaned are not that far off but 90 grams isn't a small :rofl::rofl:
  • 05-30-2016, 08:59 AM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    So your weights are a good bit off.
    31-45 is weaned
    46-79 is small

    The weaned are not that far off but 90 grams isn't a small :rofl::rofl:

    Here's the size ranges that I use for rats (from Big Cheese):
    • Pinky: 3 - 9 grams
    • Fuzzy: 10 - 19 grams
    • Pup: 20 - 34 grams
    • Weaned: 35 - 49 grams
    • Small: 50 - 89 grams
    • Medium: 90 - 179 grams
    • Large: 180 - 279 grams
    • etc...
  • 05-30-2016, 10:12 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Wonder when they changed their sizing?
    Probably trying to under/over cut the others.

    This is the same chart I have used from the beginning.
    Almost everyone I know goes by this as well.

    http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps6c837bf2.jpg
  • 05-30-2016, 11:35 AM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Wonder when they changed their sizing?
    Probably trying to under/over cut the others.

    Not sure. They've had those same ranges as long as I've been ordering from them, which has been for a few years now. It could easily be a marketing play. It doesn't bother me any since they are shifted to the upper end, which I feel like saves me a little bit on feeders in terms of $/g. At the end of the day, I'm still picking out appropriately sized meals for the collection anyway.
  • 05-30-2016, 01:48 PM
    Crowfingers
    Re: Feeding to much?
    I got them from Big Cheese - they were all just in the higher end of the range, so were the weans most were 42-53g. I think they must go by age when they process them and just take an average range, I imagine that they don't weigh each individual rat after gassing it. When I realized the prey was so big I did a custom order of 8 rats from perfectprey.com. I called and asked if they could make sure the rats I ordered were between 50 and 65 grams to give his time to catch up to the 75+. They were really nice and all eight rats were in the range I asked for and the quality was great; I ended up with a pack of 4 wean rats (49-52g) in the highest range and 4 smalls (57-66) in the lowest part of the range.
  • 07-20-2016, 11:33 AM
    scalrtn
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Just curious...does anyone ever feed their males TWO small rats at a feeding ? My 2 year old has been slamming smalls for awhile (I feed every 6-7 days this time of year), and I always weigh them to keep track of his intake. He's a little over 1100 grams. Yesterday, he took one that was 60 grams, and it was gone in a heartbeat. This morning he looked hungry, and I had to be cautious changing his water :)
  • 07-20-2016, 01:47 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Feeding to much?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scalrtn View Post
    Just curious...does anyone ever feed their males TWO small rats at a feeding ? My 2 year old has been slamming smalls for awhile (I feed every 6-7 days this time of year), and I always weigh them to keep track of his intake. He's a little over 1100 grams. Yesterday, he took one that was 60 grams, and it was gone in a heartbeat. This morning he looked hungry, and I had to be cautious changing his water :)

    Nope one is more than enough I don't feed anything larger than a small 55/75 grams rat even to my biggest males once a week and I even skip a week here and there.

    Would they take second? Yes but I prefer having animals eating with consistency year round.

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