How long can a bp breathe underwater? +2nd Question

You could try bathing your snake in warm, shallow water mixed with olive oil to remove the loose skin. I took a gamble with this on my own snake as I have been told olive oil is safe to use on snakes. It worked and left her fresh scales looking shiny and smooth too. The oil does not "mix" with the water but some of it id deposited onto the snake while bathing.

In answer to your first question, a long time as there are lot of posts online from people worried when their ball pythons submerge their heads for ten minutes plus.

Sorry, I realised after I started typing that the post is almost a year old but hopefully it will help other people who find this question. :)

???? This post was made yesterday?:confusd:

Are you looking at the user join date? I kept doing that when I first joined here too, lol

If your snake is dehydrated - fix your husbandry. Others have said it but sometimes it takes hearing it the 13th, 23rd, or 3 4th time before it sinks in. if you are measuring humidity with one of those little dial gauges they are notoriously inaccurate. Bump your humidity and stop giving your snake bathes or soaks or whatever you want to call them. THAT is why you're having a bad shed - you washed away all the snake's natural oils. Give the poor thing a humid hide if necessary but for the love of Set stop dunking it.

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The real issue with this site is the straight assumptions. My baths are half way up his side but he can still dunk his head under it, and as I said he already shed so you can shut it about natural oils being washed away. I did this because I noticed his loose skin and not much on it besides it's a showcase of shedding which he already has done. The other said it's dehydration so I let him soak. Also for another assumption I'm not using a circle hydrometer never even posted a image of his cage lmao. This site just showcases the poison of this community if anything. No wonder people are so hesitant to get a snake. If someone asks a question answer it don't assume, ask. Simple. Also it wasn't drowning I believe as I said he was gaping so he willing opened his mouth half way up the dry side and half way inside the water. I don't know where you guys got the assumption it was a whole submerge bath though I guess maybe I take baths differently and don't fully do it myself.

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Originally Posted by Pug50

I did something silly at the last feeding - my BP was very keen for her rat and came out her hot hide and passed over the water dish to get to where I was offering the rat. She struck and pulled the rat back in - she swallowed in the water bowl and at once point her whole head and the rat were underwater! I panicked but about 20 seconds later she readjusted to lift her head.

I've seen my girl decide to bathe in her water dish once, but the humidity was spot on and it caused me to get a magnifying glass out to check for mites - none on her and none in the water. So I just put it down to a random thing she decided to do once.

But, as others have said - forcing them to soak isn't the done thing.

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My Jimmy done the same thing, but he didn't constrict the mouse, he drug it over to the water bowl and drowned it. I was worried about him under the water, but he came up after about 15 seconds and went back under. He kept dunking his head and the mouse under water until it was well drowned.

1.0 Normal - Jimmy
0.1 Normal - Lola

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The real issue with this site is the straight assumptions. My baths are half way up his side but he can still dunk his head under it, and as I said he already shed so you can shut it about natural oils being washed away. I did this because I noticed his loose skin and not much on it besides it's a showcase of shedding which he already has done. The other said it's dehydration so I let him soak. Also for another assumption I'm not using a circle hydrometer never even posted a image of his cage lmao. This site just showcases the poison of this community if anything. No wonder people are so hesitant to get a snake. If someone asks a question answer it don't assume, ask. Simple. Also it wasn't drowning I believe as I said he was gaping so he willing opened his mouth half way up the dry side and half way inside the water. I don't know where you guys got the assumption it was a whole submerge bath though I guess maybe I take baths differently and don't fully do it myself.

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ok but a shallow bath still doesn't change the fact that your BP is dehydrated and did not shed in one piece. that's still a husbandry issue.

Edit: how is your BP with the torn skin and large wound BTW? is it feeding, did it shed and heal? we would love an update.

And here we go again, this is a public forum if you cannot handle replies outside of just what your looking for a public forum is not the place for you... No one said you had a dial guage it was mentioned that if you are it should be replaced because they are inaccurite, this information was based on your snakes bad shed witch is a sign of poor humidity in the snakes enviroment. Something as snake lovers we are well within reason to comment on. There no poison in this hobby, people get scared off because they dont want to hear the truth, they dont wanna hear information that they didnt specifically ask for, new memebers always expect everyone to hold there hand and be as kind as possible... Sorry to burst the bubble but the only responsibility we have is to the snakes and to make sure their care is proper and correct regardless of whos soft feelings get hurt... No one on this forum is rude in the information we give, we are just blunt and not looking to baby people just because they a new to something

You aksed a question about how long a ball can be underwater, and then went on to talk about how he gapes his mouth underwater.. Your description makes it sound like your fully submerging him... No assumptions on our part just lack of proper description on your part.

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You aksed a question about how long a ball can be underwater, and then went on to talk about how he gapes his mouth underwater.. Your description makes it sound like your fully submerging him... No assumptions on our part just lack of proper description on your part.

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Exactly this. The description provided made it sound as if the snake was being fully submerged for its soak. Also echoing Ax01 here: if you have a dehydrated snake with bad sheds, you need to figure out what's wrong with your husbandry. Baths are for emergencies or removing super stuck shed because they can be stressful on the snakes, and as pointed out earlier, washes off their natural oils. Both these things will lead to future bad sheds and you will be perpetuating a cycle of ongoing problems that will escalate to needing more interventions.

Consider providing your animal with a large water bowl so he can choose when and for how long to soak on his own volition, if he even wants to (some snakes do, some don't). Also consider adding a humid hide to your set up. Both of these will allow the snake to maintain it's proper hydration without you needing to intervene and it lowers the animal's stress by giving it more control over it's environment.

Man, Naraku has had nothing but issues with their snakes. FIRST iirc it was that baby who had their back tore to shreds and then they argued about taking it to the vet, now this? Starting to wonder if maybe this person just should not own snakes...