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Retained Eyecap?

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  • 01-24-2016, 06:29 AM
    T_Sauer
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    If it's a real concern to you .
    Can't see what harm a 20 minute soak in a snake- temp water will do tbh - then let it slide through a damp / wet towel - apply very gentle pressure .

    It won't really do any harm per say, but baths are stressful to bp's so really it would just cause unnecessary stress plus it's an eye issue and unless startled "stressed" it will not be putting it's head under water to soak the area of issue
  • 01-24-2016, 08:36 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    I think you should raise the humidity in the whole enclosure and include the hide. What type of substrate is she living on? You may want to consider switching to a 100% cypress mulch or Eco earth. Also get the sphagnum moss for the hide. This condition usually responds to increases in humidity right away. Good luck.
  • 01-26-2016, 08:32 AM
    MichPlat
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by T_Sauer View Post
    It won't really do any harm per say, but baths are stressful to bp's so really it would just cause unnecessary stress plus it's an eye issue and unless startled "stressed" it will not be putting it's head under water to soak the area of issue

    To be fair , I don't think they get stressed at all - like anything - they will initially try every nook and cranny to find a way out but they quickly settle down and will happily put their heads under water whilst they're in there .
  • 01-26-2016, 09:34 AM
    Bumblebalz
    Wrinkled eyes can be a sign of dehydration. Make sure you have a large water bowl and your humidity is 50%+. No need to soak the snake for wrinkled eyes. Always double check husbandry first.
  • 01-26-2016, 10:46 PM
    MichPlat
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bumblebalz View Post
    Wrinkled eyes can be a sign of dehydration. Make sure you have a large water bowl and your humidity is 50%+. No need to soak the snake for wrinkled eyes. Always double check husbandry first.

    Slight tangent but wouldn't dehydration or possible dehydration be a good reason to give one a short soak though ??
  • 01-26-2016, 11:00 PM
    Slim
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    In case you were wondering, the definition of stress in a Ball Python looks a little like this:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    they will initially try every nook and cranny to find a way out

    Your mileage may vary...Now back to your regularly scheduled programing.
  • 01-27-2016, 04:07 AM
    MichPlat
    Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    In case you were wondering, the definition of stress in a Ball Python looks a little like this:



    Your mileage may vary...Now back to your regularly scheduled programing.

    Again to be fair , I'm guessing that's simply YOUR definition of snake stress - if you put any snake or anything in a tub of water they're going to have a good look around , I don't see that as stress especially as they'll settle down in a minute or so and happily soak .
    I'd be more concerned if it just sat in the tub , motionless tbh
  • 01-27-2016, 07:07 AM
    Slim
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    and happily soak

    I would urge caution when determining what makes your snake happy.

    Bottom line, there are a couple of ways to deal with this situation that don't require putting your snake in the dunk tank.
  • 01-27-2016, 07:19 AM
    Bumblebalz
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MichPlat View Post
    Slight tangent but wouldn't dehydration or possible dehydration be a good reason to give one a short soak though ??

    Ball python skin and scales are water resistant. They don't really soak up water. The only way a soak could help when it comes to dehydration is if the snake just happens to take a drink. The humidity in the air that the snake breathes in, the food that that they eat and the water they rarely take a drink of are the only true way a snake stays hydrated.

    Also a tangent to farther explain. Soaking does however help with a stuck shed. The water gets between the shed and the new scales and helps to separate and lubricate to get the shed off.

    These are just my beliefs, along with my experience and breeder friends of mine. The only times i soak are for stuck sheds ( of what rarely happen for me. proper humidity is key ) and if my snakes want to act like a patient in a psychic ward and waller in their poop.
  • 01-27-2016, 08:07 AM
    MichPlat
    Re: Retained Eyecap?
    Oh well you guys appear to know best ;)
    It's funny that many vets recommend a short soak for dehydrated snakes and usually with an additive to replace lost minerals , as I understand .

    What do they know , though ... Eh ?
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