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  • 09-20-2015, 02:26 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    What work best is what works for YOU and allows you to provide proper husbandry for your animal.

    Now tubs maybe more appropriated with a very young animal if experiencing issues.
  • 09-20-2015, 02:41 PM
    Drewcifer
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Make sure that a thermostat for the heat source(s) was included in that essential equipment.

    Oh, I was definitely going to check. Thank you!
  • 09-20-2015, 02:45 PM
    Drewcifer
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    What work best is what works for YOU and allows you to provide proper husbandry for your animal.

    Now tubs maybe more appropriated with a very young animal if experiencing issues.

    Thank you! I was planning on doing that is things like going off feed since putting him/her in the enclosure.
  • 09-21-2015, 06:57 PM
    Megg
    The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    I'm currently using tanks for my 2 (planning to switch to PVC when they get upgraded), and they work alright for me. It's a bit more difficult to hold humidity and heat, especially in the winter, but it's not impossible with some tinkering! Although, I do wish I had just gotten a rack to start with.

    Edit- I put my spinnerblast into a 20 gallon long when I first got her. She was about 2 months old. I covered all of the sides, except for a small window on front and put crumbled paper in. I also added a branch and fake plants to make it more crowded. After she ate a few times, I started removing the crumpled paper and the paper that was covering the glass one at a time. Not saying it will work for you, but I personally haven't had any problems.

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  • 09-23-2015, 10:31 AM
    Drewcifer
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Megg View Post
    I'm currently using tanks for my 2 (planning to switch to PVC when they get upgraded), and they work alright for me. It's a bit more difficult to hold humidity and heat, especially in the winter, but it's not impossible with some tinkering! Although, I do wish I had just gotten a rack to start with.

    Edit- I put my spinnerblast into a 20 gallon long when I first got her. She was about 2 months old. I covered all of the sides, except for a small window on front and put crumbled paper in. I also added a branch and fake plants to make it more crowded. After she ate a few times, I started removing the crumpled paper and the paper that was covering the glass one at a time. Not saying it will work for you, but I personally haven't had any problems.

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    Thank you! I'll be getting mine younger than two months, as soon as he/she hits 100 grams and is on a proper feeding schedule. Thank you for the info!
  • 09-23-2015, 11:04 PM
    Megg
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drewcifer View Post
    Thank you! I'll be getting mine younger than two months, as soon as he/she hits 100 grams and is on a proper feeding schedule. Thank you for the info!

    No problem! Hope all goes well.


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  • 09-24-2015, 12:01 AM
    tbowman
    Something that really needs to be accounted for when deciding to go with a tub or a tank/pvc enclosure is room temperature

    If the room the enclosure is going to be in is consistently in the mid to upper 70s, I think tubs in rack systems are the way to go for ball pythons. The reason I say this is because you will only need to provide heat in the form of a hotspot for the snake to use if it chooses.

    If the room is much lower than 75 consistently, you will not have control over the ambient temperature in the tub, and then you run the risk of a depressed immune system, which can lead to sickness of your animal.

    In that case it would be more sensible to use a pvc enclosure or a tank, something which you can provide ambient heat via radiant heat panel or heat lamp, as well as a hotspot via UTH.

    I think you may be more likely to run into shedding problems with a pvc enclosure or tank if you don't keep an eye on it. My Ball Pythons that are in tubs shed perfectly every single time and I never put a drop of water on them. This is with paper substrate living in the midwest. (I do humidify the room to about 50% in the winter)
  • 09-24-2015, 08:59 AM
    Darkbird
    There really is no right or wrong when it comes to tubs verses tanks, as Deb said, it more a matter of what works best for you. I'd just go with the 20, and clutter the heck out of it. In addition to crumpled paper, I have used cheap dollar store fake plants, which look nice and are cheap enough to be trashed if they get too stained up. I use tubs and racks to save space, but I have quite a few snakes. For just one or two, I would use some kind of display setup so I would have more of a chance to see them when I didn't have time to get them out. Good luck with your new friend.
  • 09-25-2015, 10:06 PM
    Drewcifer
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tbowman View Post
    Something that really needs to be accounted for when deciding to go with a tub or a tank/pvc enclosure is room temperature

    If the room the enclosure is going to be in is consistently in the mid to upper 70s, I think tubs in rack systems are the way to go for ball pythons. The reason I say this is because you will only need to provide heat in the form of a hotspot for the snake to use if it chooses.

    If the room is much lower than 75 consistently, you will not have control over the ambient temperature in the tub, and then you run the risk of a depressed immune system, which can lead to sickness of your animal.

    In that case it would be more sensible to use a pvc enclosure or a tank, something which you can provide ambient heat via radiant heat panel or heat lamp, as well as a hotspot via UTH.

    I think you may be more likely to run into shedding problems with a pvc enclosure or tank if you don't keep an eye on it. My Ball Pythons that are in tubs shed perfectly every single time and I never put a drop of water on them. This is with paper substrate living in the midwest. (I do humidify the room to about 50% in the winter)

    Thank you!... I couldn't be sure but I'd give my room at least... a 68 degrees. I am no expert and are purely guessing... but I want to use plenty of heat sources such as an uth as well as a light above. Any further information such as to tge absolute best placement of those heat sources would be much appreciated. Thank you!
  • 09-25-2015, 10:14 PM
    Drewcifer
    Re: The age long question of... tubs or tanks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Darkbird View Post
    There really is no right or wrong when it comes to tubs verses tanks, as Deb said, it more a matter of what works best for you. I'd just go with the 20, and clutter the heck out of it. In addition to crumpled paper, I have used cheap dollar store fake plants, which look nice and are cheap enough to be trashed if they get too stained up. I use tubs and racks to save space, but I have quite a few snakes. For just one or two, I would use some kind of display setup so I would have more of a chance to see them when I didn't have time to get them out. Good luck with your new friend.

    Thank you very much! I am planning on many plants now, I'd just love to make it a comfortable home for him or her. I am almost uncontrollably excited. Thank you again!
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