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My first time and theirs

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  • 06-16-2015, 04:47 PM
    Galaxygirl
    Re: My first time and theirs
    I doubt a 2014 female will produce for you. After reading about breeding smaller females, a breeder saw a correlation between smaller females giving smaller clutches, and then those females always producing small clutches no matter how large the female gets. The breeder speculated as to whether breeding too early somehow kept them from ever producing large clutches, even when the female got to be up to 2500g. Not proven to be causation, but still something I keep in mind and am curious about.
  • 06-16-2015, 05:07 PM
    ARBallMorphs
    Yes she is an 2014 hatchling, about her weight, I made a typo.

    I thought she was 1350 grams then i weight her and she actually weighs 1444 gram and not 1344 grams as i said in the other thread.

    @Galaxygirl.

    I have read that somewhere too.

    I've also read other stories/opinions and I am in believe that if she is not ready she will not lay eggs, she might store the seamen but that is ok as the Super Pastel Calico male is/was gonna be the first male I want a clutch with her with anyway, so if she wont produce now he is gonna be paired with her next year.
  • 06-16-2015, 05:48 PM
    Aercadia
    Re: My first time and theirs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    It's approximately 4 months and 5 days from beginning to pair to laying of eggs. Then it's approx. 84 days from pairing to ovulation. Ovulation to pre lay shed is 13 days. Ultimately the pre lay shed occurs and thirty days after that should be the egg laying.

    I am a much more visual person, word problems are difficult for me, so I took your description and laid it out in a timeline instead :)

    Code:

    FIRST PAIRING -------------------------[4 months 5 days]---------------------------------> EGGS LAID

    First pairing ---[84 days]----> Ovulation
                                   
                                    Ovulation ---[13 days]----> Pre-lay Shed


                                                                Pre-lay Shed ---[30 days]----> Eggs Laid

  • 06-16-2015, 06:07 PM
    ARBallMorphs
    Aercadia, nicely done!
  • 06-16-2015, 08:05 PM
    Artemisace
    Re: My first time and theirs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ARBallMorphs View Post
    ok, thank you

    You're welcome, hope for the best with the breeding.

    Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
  • 06-16-2015, 08:31 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: My first time and theirs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galaxygirl View Post
    Interesting, I didn't know about the "its approximately 4 months and 5 days from beginning to pair to laying of eggs". We paired our Pastel for about 10 months before she laid. I wonder how many actually lay within that time frame? We started pairing in the summer (as the poster is), and our Pastel held onto the eggs until laying season (two months ago). Our Pinstripe laid in December after pairing her for 6 months.

    Well, actually I am sure there are variables in the time frames. IMO, if you were pairing your pastel for 10 months before she laid there is a reason why she didn't go within a reasonable time. Just bc they are paired doesn't mean there will be a take. Maybe the male had a low sperm count, maybe the female wasn't building enough, possibly had retained sperm. Maybe the female just wasn't ready. Variables will change what actually happens reproductively. In the natural these are the sequence of time frames. :salute: Key words are approximate and variable.
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