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  • 06-17-2015, 02:05 AM
    PassionFruitReptiles
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Cdoak, you need to get a lot more experience and do a lot more research before giving advice on a forum, you are going to worry/scare new BP keepers for absolutely no reason. The likely hood of a BP getting so stressed out from being in shed and biting that it dies is 0%, that's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

    Also, acting like a 2 year old is going to get you no where in this hobby.

    OP, it is okay to handle your BP for short periods of time while in shed, your snake may be slightly uncomfortable, as well as much more temperamental which is why most keepers tend to leave their snakes be during shed. It won't kill your snake, i promise.

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  • 06-17-2015, 04:34 AM
    cdoak1017
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PassionFruitReptiles View Post
    Cdoak, you need to get a lot more experience and do a lot more research before giving advice on a forum, you are going to worry/scare new BP keepers for absolutely no reason. The likely hood of a BP getting so stressed out from being in shed and biting that it dies is 0%, that's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

    Also, acting like a 2 year old is going to get you no where in this hobby.

    OP, it is okay to handle your BP for short periods of time while in shed, your snake may be slightly uncomfortable, as well as much more temperamental which is why most keepers tend to leave their snakes be during shed. It won't kill your snake, i promise.

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    I said from what I heard get off your high horse
  • 06-17-2015, 06:18 AM
    anicatgirl
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdoak1017 View Post
    Ima put this nicely. I said from what I heard. Now answer this for me hot shot yes or no will a snake not be stressed if it's eyes are blue and it's about to shed and your handling it yes it will be stressed (some might some might not) yes is the answer.
    Now will a stressed snake that keeps trying to bite you, because you are stressing it out and it refuses to eat an may not eat until it dies and not everyone knows how to tube/force feed(anyways it may just puke it up) so back up

    So is it possible that a snake may die from stress I believe so

    Calm down cookie.... Yes it may stress out the snake to be handled. However it would take a long pattern of stress and not feeding and such before death would occur. They're not just going to have a heart attack :P. Hopefully during such period of time the keeper would realize the issue and correct it. And IMO it really depends on the snake. Some are OK with handling during shed, some aren't.

    @OP This will sound hokey but "Listen to the snake, Luke!" it will tell you how it feels about handling. Just watch for signs of stress.
  • 06-17-2015, 06:23 AM
    The Golem
    Sometimes a day or two after shed, I'll gently wipe down my snake with wet paper towels then dry him off. He seems to like it.

    I think there are 2 types of stress.
    Python regius - royal aka ball pythons - get their name from the habit of African rulers 'wearing' them around arms as jewelry. So the short-term 'stress' of being handled for a short period of time isn't going to harm them.
    A much bigger concern is long-term stress due to poor husbandry and caging, because a negligent owner might not realize (or care) about the poor conditions which over time will be a serious detriment to its health.
  • 06-17-2015, 06:38 AM
    Reinz
    cdoak1017, let me explain some unwritten rules so to speak about such things.

    We have all "heard" things and read things on the Internet, that obviously does not make them true.
    For example, if someone asked what is the biggest/largest snake ever found?
    Now we all have "heard" of anywhere from 20 - 50ft or more. There are internet stories of a 200 footer.

    Now for me to just come out and answer the question on the forum with - "200 ft is the largest snake ever found.", would be irresponsible.

    The correct way would be; "fossil records show the longest snake to be 43 ft. And live photographed records show 32ft." (Don't hold me to these figures).

    Or if a totally different question were asked about breeding, you would respond by " in my experience......, or my breeding Leopard Pastel female........"

    Now going back to your original comment, you stated that death due to stress was fact. You did not say "I heard" until later in the thread when you got all defensive and rude. Had you started out with "I heard...", then that would have changed the tone of your post.

    If you still wish to stand by your statement, then the next standard of procedure is to back it up with a reference of a reputable study proving such a statement.

    This is the proper way things are done if you wish to be taken seriously.

    Best
  • 06-17-2015, 10:49 AM
    CORBIN911
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdoak1017 View Post
    It can die from stress is what I heard idk I only have 1 BP and I can handle her during shed but I don't hold her very long 5 mins tops. But that's just me

    I wouldnt tell people it MAY DIE.... "If that's what you've heard" I heard if they bite us WE may die? CNN told me this:colbert:
  • 06-17-2015, 12:51 PM
    christarr01
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tbowman View Post
    Never put much thought into handling directly after a shed. People help snakes with bad sheds all the time (I've done this too) and the snakes don't seem to act any different than any other time.

    As for handling during a shed cycle, most snakes will make it pretty clear to you that they would really rather not be handled. I generally don't unless it's for cleaning.

    My baby Bp hasn't had a clean shed yet. I have to emmerse him in warm water for an hour each time.

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  • 06-17-2015, 12:53 PM
    christarr01
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by T_Sauer View Post
    I'm going to put this as nicely as I can .... Your post is RIDICULOUS! ........ Handling a snake in shed will not stress it enough to kill it .... Please learn and educate yourself some more before posting advice that is nonsense and worrying other new bp owner .... :colbert:

    Sounds like to enjoy sticking your nob into your Bp s mouth...??


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  • 06-17-2015, 02:07 PM
    T_Sauer
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christarr01 View Post
    Sounds like to enjoy sticking your nob into your Bp s mouth...??


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    :confusd:
  • 06-17-2015, 02:08 PM
    tbowman
    Re: handling ball python post shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christarr01 View Post
    My baby Bp hasn't had a clean shed yet. I have to emmerse him in warm water for an hour each time.

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    Then something is wrong and needs changing.
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