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THANKS lizardlicks, to comment on the replies, i'm NOT that STUPID to place all three in 1 enclosure, FOXTON your 4th wasn't needed, NOT trying to be a non listener but if i make a mistake, let me LEARN from it.. not trying to hurt or kill my snakeS, BUT your going to say im GOING to, so thats where problems start on here for me...The BEGINNING of this thread was EXTRA cool, then it turned DOWN, LEAVE money comments OUT my posts, cuz ya'll DON'T know anything about my life, just saying...

Only reason people bring up money is because you've brought it up before... and used it as excuses as to why you couldn't get your husbandry right the first time. We want what's best for you and your snakes, so when we give you money saving options, it's only in the spirit of helping.

And we know sometimes that we have to learn from our mistakes, but IF it was even a possibility that one of my animals would kill the other, I would not risk even that 1%. People are trying to help you avoid possible loss and heartbreak, not to mention what that snake that was cannibalized would go through :(....

I would suggest you either buy a rack system or build one yourself. Go simple. Simple substrate, uth (or tape), therm, etc....

Especially if you plan on breeding, a rack system is a great option in which you can house multiple reptiles.

Generally I have found the more complex your enclosure is, the more maintenance and potential for problems you will discover (poor sheds, mites, humidity, heating, etc)

As a side note, I am building another new enclosure rack out of hardwood pine, would be happy to share with you if interested.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

Only reason people bring up money is because you've brought it up before... and used it as excuses as to why you couldn't get your husbandry right the first time. We want what's best for you and your snakes, so when we give you money saving options, it's only in the spirit of helping.

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UNDERSTOOD sir, but PAST posts are just that, the PAST, so why people rely on PAST posts to post on FUTURE threads, that's the MAIN thing that bugs me out on here and people think it's ok TO PUSH my buttons and erryybody want to downgrade my REP status, because i DON'T agree with something i read..

If you house a male and female together, even if they're siblings, they WILL mate when they become sexually mature (unless conditions are not right for mating, as previously stated). The male will mate with the female, non stop, until it kills him.

Putting a THIRD male in, to mate with the female, will cause the two males to fight.

Not to mention, all this nonstop breeding will most likely injure the female.

Snakes should never be housed together, unless TEMPORARILY for breeding.

As previously stated, you should make sure you have proper SEPARATE housing for all three snakes, and the babies that will be produced.

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

UNDERSTOOD sir, but PAST posts are just that, the PAST, so why people rely on PAST posts to post on FUTURE threads, that's the MAIN thing that bugs me out on here and people think it's ok TO PUSH my buttons and erryybody want to downgrade my REP status, because i DON'T agree with something i read..

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We rely on pasts posts for a whole picture. You wouldn't pick up a book or TV series in the middle with the idea that the previous chapters/episodes have absolutely no bearing on what's currently happening. If your situation has changed, then say so. You mentioned in past threads that your family had come under a deal of emotional and financial distress because of an unexpected injury/illness. It happens, and no one thinks anything bad about it. As of right now, you're still trying to refurbish a piece of furniture you found in a dumpster. Not a bad idea! I'm not knocking it at all, but it does continue to paint the picture that saving money is your primary concern. If it isn't, and things about your situation have changed, then I would suggest going with the previous suggestion of buying or building a rack system. You can keep more snakes in a smaller space that way, and their heat and humidity are mush easier to manage than in an open enclosure type system.

And I KNOW you've been told this before, because I was one of the people who told you: you lose reputation because of your bad attitude. No one is here to push your buttons, you're pushing them yourself by getting nasty when someone tells you something you don't want to hear. Stop taking our suggestions as personal criticisms or attacks, because they aren't. You're free to ignore our advice as you please, but remember we aren't here to yank your chain, we're here to help you and your snakes be happy and healthy.

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

UNDERSTOOD sir, but PAST posts are just that, the PAST, so why people rely on PAST posts to post on FUTURE threads, that's the MAIN thing that bugs me out on here and people think it's ok TO PUSH my buttons and erryybody want to downgrade my REP status, because i DON'T agree with something i read..

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If you want the best information possible you need to give us the best information possible. Otherwise we are to rely on the past information shared.

I honestly dont see the big issue here. You asked a question and got good answers to keep the snake safe, which I thought was the goal. Seems like a successful mission to me.

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Originally Posted by Ballpythoncrazy

If you house a male and female together, even if they're siblings, they WILL mate when they become sexually mature (unless conditions are not right for mating, as previously stated). The male will mate with the female, non stop, until it kills him.

Putting a THIRD male in, to mate with the female, will cause the two males to fight.

Not to mention, all this nonstop breeding will most likely injure the female.

Snakes should never be housed together, unless TEMPORARILY for breeding.

As previously stated, you should make sure you have proper SEPARATE housing for all three snakes, and the babies that will be produced.

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understood, that is where people didn't get me.. I'm not putting the 3 together, would remove her brother for the time being and enter the newbie..everybody talking about rack on racks on racks,i'll figure something out when/if the time comes, i wanna view my kids in their homemade habitat enclosure, NEW QUESTION:: how does building (hides) inside the enclosure out of sheetrock sound.?(GOOD or BAD)?

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

We rely on pasts posts for a whole picture. You wouldn't pick up a book or TV series in the middle with the idea that the previous chapters/episodes have absolutely no bearing on what's currently happening. If your situation has changed, then say so. You mentioned in past threads that your family had come under a deal of emotional and financial distress because of an unexpected injury/illness. It happens, and no one thinks anything bad about it. As of right now, you're still trying to refurbish a piece of furniture you found in a dumpster. Not a bad idea! I'm not knocking it at all, but it does continue to paint the picture that saving money is your primary concern. If it isn't, and things about your situation have changed, then I would suggest going with the previous suggestion of buying or building a rack system. You can keep more snakes in a smaller space that way, and their heat and humidity are mush easier to manage than in an open enclosure type system.

And I KNOW you've been told this before, because I was one of the people who told you: you lose reputation because of your bad attitude. No one is here to push your buttons, you're pushing them yourself by getting nasty when someone tells you something you don't want to hear. Stop taking our suggestions as personal criticisms or attacks, because they aren't. You're free to ignore our advice as you please, but remember we aren't here to yank your chain, we're here to help you and your snakes be happy and healthy.

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I could see if i said AGAIN i'm having money problems BUT that hasn't been said so STOP relying on PAST POSTS to determine you alls posts about what im posting new threads about..