Average Price List?

What's your suggestion for keeping up with price potentially changing every week on thousands of snakes? Also the formula is simply supply and demand. Fire clown is worth quite a bit more than a pastel clown, despite fires and pastels are not that different in price. Also a price list might become a bible like world of ball python has... And we see what a problem that has become.

The problem with the OP's question is that there are a lot of variables that factor into the price.
Male versus female
Hatchling, juvenile, adult, or proven adult
Eats rats versus only mice or ASF
Eats only live versus frozen/thaw
Picky eater
Morph quality
Local cash sale versus transaction with electronic payment + shipping
Seller's reputation
Buyer's reputation

I paid $200 for my Super Pastel female last year, if you're looking at a male it should be cheaper than $200. I've not seen anyone outside of Kevin at NERD still use the Jungle name, I may be mistaken though. Did a check of NERD's site and they have a Super Pastel male for $150 which includes overnight shipping in the cost.

It's a great idea but it would never work because the prices on BPs fluctuate so much. Some people will try to sell their animals as cheap as possible just to get rid of them while others wait to get what they think their animal is worth.

Additionally, there would have to be a "clarity" scale like they have for dimonds because price usually depends on quality of the animal. Also it depends if it's a male or a female, what they weight is, and if they're proven or not. It's just too many variables.

Price would be more like a range, and I think you could keep up with it fairly well by just adding in a feedback-type box to a morph list (like WoBP) that says "I purchased/sold this snake for ____". Price would read "average price is between x and y", ignoring a percentage of prices well outside the range (you bought this snake for 5 dollars when the going price is 200? I don't think so). It would probably also be helpful to sort the results by how recent they are (I'm thinking increments of 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 5 years?). You would still face an issue with people giving false reports to raise/lower average prices to fit their needs, so adding in some moderators and a report false information button might be a needed precaution.

Complicated? Maybe. I think it's totally doable, though.

how do you rate quality and weight age? also I sell animals for different prices depending on how well I know the person, my friends and repeat customers get discounts. then there are multiple animal discounts. How to you verify reports?

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Originally Posted by Redlude92

I wish there was Kelley blue book for snakes. I too wonder what is worth that and if I am over paying or getting a deal..

I vote someone start one up!

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Although it would make things a lot easier, prices would change too rapidly for it to even be helpful. It would have to rely entirely on self-reported sales (car sales are obviously easier because they're heavily regulated). I've seen morphs go from $15,000 one year to about $300 a couple years later. The database would have to constantly be updated... even a matter of months without editing would make the whole thing a joke.

To figure out if you're getting a good price, search for that morph on faunaclassifieds.com and kingsnake.com, and compare prices. You also have to take into consideration the sex, age, weight, and even what the snake is eating (i.e. a female, two year old, 1400 gram coral glow eating rats will be worth +10 times as much as a male, two month old, 100 gram coral glow who refuses to eat anything but mice.)

As a community we need to stop trying to undercut the price to make a sale and hold to our guns. Otherwise we are going to ruin this hobby and eventually at the rate we are going there will be as many snakes in shelters as cats and dogs and some will habe to be put down. Id hate for it to get there. Ive seen recently a pastel het clown male for 50 dollars, i just shook my head. Wanted to get it, but just couldn't do it to the hobby.

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Originally Posted by kylearmbar

As a community we need to stop trying to undercut the price to make a sale and hold to our guns. Otherwise we are going to ruin this hobby and eventually at the rate we are going there will be as many snakes in shelters as cats and dogs and some will habe to be put down.

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As a community we need to slow down breeding. This isn't a game. They're animals that need to be taken care of. The reason Ball Pythons are so cheap is because everyone and their mother wants to breed Ball Pythons. Most people don't even breed good combos. Most things I see on here is this: " I'm going to buy 5 double gene snakes and then breed them to my 3 normals". Seriously??? Then the same person who can't handle having all the hatchlings either sells them at rock bottom price or give them away. And people actually encourage breeding! Come on...

Personally, I think it's quite ridiculous how people barely begin to understand how to take care of Ball Pythons and right away try to breed them. With cats and dogs, they breed by themselves because they're not neutered or spayed. I don't see Ball Pythons breeding on the streets of California like rabbits.

As you see this is a HOT issue for me. It's one of my biggest pet peeves on this forum when I see someone who barely just got into the hobby asking how many snakes they should buy to breed. :/ Can't people enjoy their pets without breeding? Or even at least wait until you know how to properly care for the animal.

I've been in this hobby for 3 years (which is nothing by the way) and I'm barely deciding if I want to breed or not. I'm not saying It's wrong, but at least be responsible about it. Don't breed a crap load of animals if you can't afford it because these are living things and they need to be cared for. Doesn't matter whether it's Normal or a 10K BP. Also, if you want to breed as a hobby, keep a couple of animals and make sure you actually in it for the log haul. I see this phrase all the time "BPs are like Pringles". Well what happens when you get tired of eating Pringles? How many for sale threads are on here where people are "reducing" their collection or getting rid of the whole thing all together because "they don't have time"?

My rant is pretty much over. I'm just saying that if you are thinking about breeding think twice about it. These aren't stamps or Pokemon. You can't catch them all. These animals live 20+ years. That's a hell of a commitment for ANYONE to make. Most people get bored with hobbies after a few month or years or something changes in their life and then the animals they have suffer being neglected or end up on craig's list.

[QUOTE=Daigga;2323268]Pastels are sometimes called jungles or pastel jungles, but what you're looking at is a super pastel.[QUOTE]

That would explain why I haven't seen many...lol