Switched from a 10 gallon to a 96 qt sterilite

I haven't handled him at all. Hmmm Mayeb I can try to raise the temps some more...

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Originally Posted by NomadOfTheHills

I haven't handled him at all. Hmmm Mayeb I can try to raise the temps some more...

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If your warm end is about 95 and your cool end is about 80, raising the temps would be a bad idea. The warm side is a bit warm, IMO, but isn't hateful yet. Please tell me that you will handle him when you clean out his cage ;).

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Originally Posted by led4urhead

If your warm end is about 95 and your cool end is about 80, raising the temps would be a bad idea.

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Why would it be a bad idea?

-adam

My 55gal is heated so the cool side gets down to around 78 at night, and the warm side gets up around 93 in the day. Ball Python's enjoy basking temperatures around 90, but not as a constant temperature. I tend to find them on the cooler side during the day, then they return to the warmth throughout their nocturnal moving's about. I think raising the temperature's when he already has a solid 95 on the warm side would make it uncomfortable and more stressful for his BP.

Also, I'm curious how you switched caging without handling him. Even picking him up and placing him in a new cage when he's still fairly new to living spaces can be stressful, I'd be sure to leave him where he is for now, for at least a week before you try to press anything else on him. As for food, everyone else has solid ideas. Check the temperature you've thawed/warmed it to, or you can try pre-killed and dance them for your snake. I tend to remove my snakes from their enclosure prior to feeding so they don't assume I'll be feeding them each time I open the tank itself. The only problem I ever had with feeding itself, was getting my male to take pre-killed (switching him off live).

So for now I would leave him where he is to adjust again. Lower your temps slightly if you can. Make sure the humidity is around 60% or so. Also you should add a large flat tupperware bowl/pan filled with water for the snake to drink from/soak in (he'll need water if he hasn't eaten for a few weeks.

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about raising the temp on the cool side, not the hot side.

And please remember, everyones snakes are different. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone. These are animals, not cars. I think that taking a little bit of advice from everyone, trying different things, and figuring out what works best for your animal is the way to go!

-adam

Ill move the light over to lower the hot side a little and raise the cool side. The ONLY time I handled him was when I made the move.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about raising the temp on the cool side, not the hot side.

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No i wasnt. 80 is just fine on the cool side and

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Originally Posted by led4urhead

If your warm end is about 95 and your cool end is about 80, raising the temps would be a bad idea. The warm side is a bit warm, IMO, but isn't hateful yet.

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80 on the cool side and approx 90-92 on the warm side is the generally accepted optimal temps for a bp. Having said that, you said it best your self :

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

And please remember, everyones snakes are different. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone. These are animals, not cars. I think that taking a little bit of advice from everyone, trying different things, and figuring out what works best for your animal is the way to go!

-adam

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Originally Posted by led4urhead

No i wasnt. 80 is just fine on the cool side and

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I apologize for the confusion, but I was not referring to your post.

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Originally Posted by led4urhead

80 on the cool side and approx 90-92 on the warm side is the generally accepted optimal temps for a bp.

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Accepted by whom?

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Having said that, you said it best your self :

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

And please remember, everyones snakes are different. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone. These are animals, not cars. I think that taking a little bit of advice from everyone, trying different things, and figuring out what works best for your animal is the way to go!

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Thanks!!

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Accepted by whom?

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http://www.newenglandreptile.com/CareBall.html

edit: It is generally accepted by most people you will talk to, and since you alread brought up NERD in this thread i thought i would post a link to their bp caresheet. You however put it perfectly. There is no exact science to keeping reptiles. Every keeper has to make the descisions for his/herself and for his/her own reptiles. All we can do is offer advice for what works for us.

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Originally Posted by led4urhead

It is generally accepted by most people you will talk to

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Not by the people that I talk to, so I guess it can't be too generally accepted.

As far as Kevins care sheet goes, I've been up close and personal with his balls and no way are they only 80 degrees! (wow, that didn't sound good) LOL

Here are some other sources that suggest keeping ambient temps for ball pythons warmer than 80.

http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/index.html
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...l_breeding.asp
http://www.vpi.com/8VPICareSheets/Py...lCareSheet.htm
http://www.bobclark.com/aAN_02.asp

... as well at the ball python manual.

-adam