What i realized..

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Originally Posted by Artemisace

I get wanting to start with snakes you've already purchased, but in this case you've figured out that's a bad idea. As far as hets go, you do know how the albino gene works right?

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This x2. Just making sure you know what you are getting into. The albino gene is recessive, meaning you would need to breed two albinos, or an albino and a het albino, to produce any visual albinos.

I am happy you decided to take the advice that everyone here gave you.

We really are not bad people, we just really care about our passion.

Take this time to focus on getting everything right, and keeping everything right with whatever you purchase in the future, and continue to research. You'll get there.

let me see if what i was reading/researching on is the same thing you talking about... An Albino Male to a Norm Female, would produce (all these numbers are ROUGH-LIES) OK SO 2 would be born normal with het qualities, 2 more would be NORMS, and 1 a visible Albino...LMAO feel like i'm taking a test..lololol

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Originally Posted by Artemisace

I get wanting to start with snakes you've already purchased, but in this case you've figured out that's a bad idea. As far as hets go, you do know how the albino gene works right?

Sent from my snake room

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

let me see if what i was reading/researching on is the same thing you talking about... An Albino Male to a Norm Female, would produce (all these numbers are ROUGH-LIES) OK SO 2 would be born normal with het qualities, 2 more would be NORMS, and 1 a visible Albino...LMAO feel like i'm taking a test..lololol

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Not quite. All the babies would be 100% het for albino, and All the babies would appear normal. I believe you're thinking about how a dominant gene works, but albino is a recessive gene.

EDIT: Glad you decided to wait a bit and save up for some desirable genes before breeding!

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

let me see if what i was reading/researching on is the same thing you talking about... An Albino Male to a Norm Female, would produce (all these numbers are ROUGH-LIES) OK SO 2 would be born normal with het qualities, 2 more would be NORMS, and 1 a visible Albino...LMAO feel like i'm taking a test..lololol

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Uhm no, an albino male to a normal female would produce normal offspring that are 100% het or heterozygous for albino. You will never get an albino from a normal to albino breeding. Unless your female is het albino you're GOING to get all normal babies that are carrying the gene for albinism.

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Ditto what the two above said. The next step would be to raise the het (or we'll say "gene carrying") babies up to breeding age and size, then pair them to each other or back to the albino male. Unless you're putting two visual snakes together, you aren't going to see visual babies until at least the third generation with a recessive project. And that's if the snakes you kept from your first batch of eggs get lucky when they all lay their first clutches (your odds are improved by pairing them back to the visual dad instead of to each other, but it's still all down to luck). That's why you see so many breeders talking about "the odds gods" and crossing their fingers every season. Recessive projects as a rule take more time and careful attention to what you're doing than others.

aight thanks i got ya'll... been reading sooooo much about this just overlooked all the baby options i read..So from having all HET albino babies, would have to mate two of them to eachother or another HET Albino to produce what i posted earlier, then the 1 visible Albino would be HOMOZ..???

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

aight thanks i got ya'll... been reading sooooo much about this just overlooked all the baby options i read..So from having all HET albino babies, would have to mate two of them to eachother or another HET Albino to produce what i posted earlier, then the 1 visible Albino would be HOMOZ..???

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Pretty much. You'd end up with three normals; two of those three would be het for albino, but you won't be able to tell which two, so you have to sell all three as 66% possible hets. The one visible albino would be homozygous for it.

Now, if you take one of those het babies and instead of mating it to a sibling, mated it back to an albino (like the father), you'd get 50% of the litter visible albino, and 50% of them would be 100% het for albino.

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

aight thanks i got ya'll... been reading sooooo much about this just overlooked all the baby options i read..So from having all HET albino babies, would have to mate two of them to eachother or another HET Albino to produce what i posted earlier, then the 1 visible Albino would be HOMOZ..???

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Now you're getting it. Your best odds would be to keep a baby female, who would be het albino, and breed her back to your albino male. Half of those babies would be albino, the other half would be het albino.

If nobody has suggested this, here's an option.

If you want visual babies quickly, I would skip the recessive trait altogether(albino) and go with something that is a codominant or dominant trait. Something that you'll be able to breed with your normal female and still get visual babies.

That's very true, sir..the main thing is the price but if i'm willing to wait and save for this albino male, then i'll just have to see which co-dominate male would look better or make me proud of making morphs with him....

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Originally Posted by tbowman

If nobody has suggested this, here's an option.

If you want visual babies quickly, I would skip the recessive trait altogether(albino) and go with something that is a codominant or dominant trait. Something that you'll be able to breed with your normal female and still get visual babies.

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