Feeding

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

I completely thaw my feeders at room temperature then super heat them with a hairdryer. They're never wet with this method.

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I will have to go get a new blow dryer. I live in a house full of women and I never know where it is.

I always thaw my rats in a sealed zip lock bag and the rats are never wet. Either the rats were frozen wet to begin with, or there is water getting into the bag through a hole.

This is why I hate f/t. It takes long time to thaw, not as fresh as live and I always have to reheat them before feed rats to snakes.
However, swallowing substrate can`t be any issue for them since they can even digest horns in the wild.

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Originally Posted by dek593

This is why I hate f/t. It takes long time to thaw, not as fresh as live and I always have to reheat them before feed rats to snakes.
However, swallowing substrate can`t be any issue for them since they can even digest horns in the wild.

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It's not an issue...however it's entertaining to see the lengths people will go to avoid something that isn't an issue.

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Originally Posted by dek593

This is why I hate f/t. It takes long time to thaw, not as fresh as live and I always have to reheat them before feed rats to snakes.
However, swallowing substrate can`t be any issue for them since they can even digest horns in the wild.

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I fed live for the last 7 months, and the live rats we fed him (same size as the frozen) he would strike and coil, but too far back, which would cause the rat to bite Monty. So we switched to large mice, and we were feeding him 3, but once he ate one, he wouldn't strike at the second until the next day. So he would be already digesting the previous mouse by the time he got the second, and he got stuck in feed mode. I've also heard of snakes suffocating because they inhaled substrate that got stuck to their noses while striking. And it getting balled up in their throats and choking. So yes, it is a concern

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Originally Posted by MontyAndMelissa

I've also heard of snakes suffocating because they inhaled substrate that got stuck to their noses while striking. And it getting balled up in their throats and choking. So yes, it is a concern

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:rolleyes:

You know how a snake breathes - correct?

Explain to me how choking works with regards to snakes...then re-read what you wrote and reconcile that with what you "heard".

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

:rolleyes:

You know how a snake breathes - correct?

Explain to me how choking works with regards to snakes...then re-read what you wrote and reconcile that with what you "heard".

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You are aware that even though airways and throats are separate, if the throat is blocked enough to create a large bulge and it is stuck that way for an extended period of time, it can cause the surrounding blood vessels to swell, and then block the airway. Next you're going to tell me snakes don't have blood vessels?

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

:rolleyes:

You know how a snake breathes - correct?

Explain to me how choking works with regards to snakes...then re-read what you wrote and reconcile that with what you "heard".

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Generally if a prey item is too large, the snake will regurgitate it. When it comes to substrate they will generally regurgitate and spit out as much as they can. I know it's not a major concern for you, but considering I only have the one snake currently I would like to take the best care of him as I can. And I don't particularly want him getting substrate stuck in his throat, especially wet substrate. If you don't have a serious answer, don't comment. I'm not in the mood for mindless banter back and forth when you are obviously uneducated and are simply on this site to troll people. Good day.

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Originally Posted by MontyAndMelissa

Generally if a prey item is too large, the snake will regurgitate it. When it comes to substrate they will generally regurgitate and spit out as much as they can. I know it's not a major concern for you, but considering I only have the one snake currently I would like to take the best care of him as I can. And I don't particularly want him getting substrate stuck in his throat, especially wet substrate. If you don't have a serious answer, don't comment. I'm not in the mood for mindless banter back and forth when you are obviously uneducated and are simply on this site to troll people. Good day.

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Yeah skip is uneducated and a troll lol
Pot calling the kettle black

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Originally Posted by Rob

Yeah skip is uneducated lol
Pot calling the kettle black

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Do me a favor and pick up a book. Or go to your herp vet. Yes, its unlikely for a snake to choke but it is certainly possible.