My first ball pythons (vanilla and piebald)

My end goal would be to have them separated. I don't see the issue with housing them like this temporarily but I think the hide situation could be better.

Yes, at some point the two will try to breed.

As for being in a cage that is to big, it can be done if done correctly. I have raised my BP in a 40 gallon by giving nice hides, real and fake plants, driftwood, vines, and moss. All of these things make the snake feel secure because it can move around the large tank feeling secure because it has cover and concealment. The key to housing a snake in a tank that is to big is filling it will things that make the snake feel secure.

I hope they breed that is the plan once the pied is old enough I am going to look for a nice breedable female

Nice additions!

I do not know if I am right, but if that is a vanilla then my normal is a vanilla too.

Either that is a normal or mine is a vanilla?!
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...5c0b523333.jpg

I don't think either one is a vanilla, truthfully.

It is possible the little one is a poor quality vanilla, but it is not what I look for in a vanilla, even as a baby a vanilla should be easily distinguished.

Here are pictures of my baby vanillas:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...anillaMale.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd8ee8ba2.jpg

This is a double gene Vanilla Mojave, you can see the difference even in her:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...MojaveGirl.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...anillaMojo.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...MojaveGirl.jpg


Even adult vanillas should be easy to spot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...es/Kodmam2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...kes/Kodama.jpg


This is a comparison shot of a vanilla with a normal:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...IMG_0439-1.jpg

Gale

Here is a picture from feeding today I don't think she just looks normal

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/p...126_103600.jpg

I still have my doubts about that one.

After a few days when she's had a chance to digest her dinner, would you please post a good shot of just her head? The head stamp is the one never fail vanilla marker, so I'd like to get a good look at hers, if you don't mind.

She is without a doubt a beautiful golden color, but I really hesitate to call her a vanilla yet.

Gale

I defiantly will, I'm not to worried if she is or not she was to pretty to leave behind for 63 bucks, plus my wife wanted her so any excuse for another snake.

what do you look for on the head to tell the differencedifference

Vanillas should have an all over head fade, usually with a lighter spot in the center. Not something as crazy as a spider head marking, but noticeable.

Gale

There is a light spot on her. I'll take a picture when I get home from work