What are your opinions on hets?

well I know that they would be het or not het; but wouldn't breeding two 100% percentages together make the babies that are het 100% or only 66%? This is where I really have trouble is figuring out the percentages.

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Originally Posted by JPerkins

well I know that they would be het or not het; but wouldn't breeding two 100% percentages together make the babies that are het 100% or only 66%? This is where I really have trouble is figuring out the percentages.

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A picture is worth 1000 words:
http://www.discern-genetics.org/images/6.1.gif

In this example, lets say blue is Piebald - a recessive trait. Both parents are 100% het Piebald (not visual, but carrying the trait). Of the offspring, there is a 1/4 chance at a Piebald (visual recessive). Of the other three, only 2/3 are carrying the Piebald trait - the other 1/3 is not. Because you can't tell which of the non-visual offspring are carrying the Piebald trait, all of the non-visual offspring are considered 66% hets.

Better?

i personally love 100% hets.....i think of them as codoms (with the visual recessive being the super form).

a normal het may or may not be valuable depending on the sex and type of recessive gene it carries. for example male normal het albino, this is not an ideal candidate for breeding albino projects, so it could be difficult to sell to a hobbyist. female normal hets on the other hand are win win. more hobbyists want them, and if they don't get sold, you can raise them for future projects.

to get higher chances of producing visuals and ensuring all non-visuals are 100% hets, i plan to limit my pairings to visuals x hets.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

A picture is worth 1000 words:
http://www.discern-genetics.org/images/6.1.gif

In this example, lets say blue is Piebald - a recessive trait. Both parents are 100% het Piebald (not visual, but carrying the trait). Of the offspring, there is a 1/4 chance at a Piebald (visual recessive). Of the other three, only 2/3 are carrying the Piebald trait - the other 1/3 is not. Because you can't tell which of the non-visual offspring are carrying the Piebald trait, all of the non-visual offspring are considered 66% hets.

Better?

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YES! Thank you!

Mine is a visual to 100% het that would make all non visuals 100% het also correct?

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Originally Posted by zachbinger

Mine is a visual to 100% het that would make all non visuals 100% het also correct?

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Yes you would get 50% chance of visuals and all the normal looking babies will bee 100% het

Wow...:bow: thanks for all the Info..I would like to breed a spider with a piebald would one gene be stronger than the other or would it depend on thier individual gene?

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Originally Posted by ritche

Wow...:bow: thanks for all the Info..I would like to breed a spider with a piebald would one gene be stronger than the other or would it depend on thier individual gene?

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Not sure about your question here and what you mean by stronger gene?

If you breed Spider to Pied you will get 50% Spider and 50% Normal looking offsprings all 100% Het for Pied (Those are odds per eggs)

If I may take a different angle on this question. As a future breeder of snakes even if your "just in it for the fun" you have to approach it as a business because those baby snakes are gonna need to go somewhere. If you factor in the caging and feeding cost and time invested then on top of that add the fact that your going to get less money for the babies and have a harder time selling them then.... A Het Pied may be $100, but a Pied is $500 so that "small" investment of $400 is going to gain you much more down the road when you factor in possible yearly clutches. Not to mention your going to have a cooler snake to look at. So my straight forward answer is this: If you have the money then stay away from normal Hets like het pied, het albinos, het ghosts. These are not worth the risk as a future breeder. The exception would be multiple gene+Hets like a Pastel Leopard het ghost or the occasional double het like het albino/pied. Just my 2cents

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Not sure about your question here and what you mean by stronger gene?

If you breed Spider to Pied you will get 50% Spider and 50% Normal looking offsprings all 100% Het for Pied (Those are odds per eggs)

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What I ask is..would they be more likely to be spider or piebald?Why would they be normal with one spider and the other piebald?I really don’t know….i’m not trying to be a breeder ..just thought the mix would be cool looking…..thankx