Odd clutch?

Wow!! What a funky result from that recent clutch. Is there any possibility that both parents are het for axanthic?
Do you have plans to breed the son back to the mother? It could be pretty revealing about the genetics.

So many breeders sell 66% and 50% PH animals as Normals that anything is possible.

I was just talking to my boyfriend about it and he was telling me about a clutch he hatched out years ago that he thought were axanthic when they hatched but after about 5 sheds they colored up completely. Turned out it was a trait associated with being het for albino. Snakes are weird and amazing :3
I'm excited to see if they stay so light or if they do get any color to them.

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Originally Posted by RellesReptiles

Wow!! What a funky result from that recent clutch. Is there any possibility that both parents are het for axanthic?
Do you have plans to breed the son back to the mother? It could be pretty revealing about the genetics.

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It's possible but I'm not sure how likely it would be for BOTH parents to be het for the specific gene of axanthic without me knowing at least one or the other is? I do have plans to breed her son from her original clutch back to her that has the same hoof print on his head. I'll have to see where things take me after that.

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Originally Posted by RellesReptiles

I was just talking to my boyfriend about it and he was telling me about a clutch he hatched out years ago that he thought were axanthic when they hatched but after about 5 sheds they colored up completely. Turned out it was a trait associated with being het for albino.

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It could be this too but I'm not really sure of all the het albino traits..... Do they have that hoof print on their head and a reduced pattern? I've heard that their alien heads can be outlined with white but I honestly haven't dug for much info on het albinos. It doesn't quite explain the other odd ball that has a weird head stamp, funky pattern and is really bright but it could just be that one is just an odd normal. I guess I'll see how they color up or brighten up with a few sheds and maybe I'll have a better idea or at least better pics to post.

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Originally Posted by BlueMoonExotics

Do they have that hoof print on their head and a reduced pattern?

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I don't think they have the exact headstamp, but I have noticed even with my het pieds that they tend to have a little more head blush than your standard normal.
But yeah, I definitely can't explain the really bright ones showing up or how crazy the son is. Either way it's very exciting!!

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

So many breeders sell 66% and 50% PH animals as Normals that anything is possible.

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I wonder about that a lot!
My bp came from a breeder that did not seem very professional...of the hundreds of bp available at that expo, I picked the one that stood out as different...after a couple of weeks of scouring the web I've determined he prolly normal...but that's the mystery of genetics! No tellin what's hiding on the inside!
I like to hope these traits I picked him for might just be something genetic...if only het. markers...that would be great too!

Ok, all have shed out and so I took some pics tonight. Still look odd to me but maybe someone can help me figure it out. I still don't see any Mojave but #4 has a certain look to it that almost makes me think of a mojo I suppose lol. These pics were all taken in the same lightbox with the same camera on the same settings. Sorry about some of the shed that happened to tag along and make it into some of the pics :)

Baby #1 - Starting with the one that for the most part looks normal to me
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b9135a5.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps95e1ddb4.jpg

Baby #2 - One of three that looked "faded" in the egg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4ef395e5.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps13b76020.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...pse087501a.jpg

Baby #3 - Two of three that looked "faded" in the egg. This one is also the one that has a slight kink in her neck and shares what looks like the very same hoof print that her older brother and mother have
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps268608cb.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps24f3c95e.jpg

Baby #4 - Three of three that had the "faded" look. This one is even more bright than the previous 2. Even if it's a normal, I will still be holding her back I think.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psc4a98366.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps00c25567.jpg

Baby #5 - This is the "yellowish orangish" one that had the funky pattern. Still does if you ask me.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psc1c8cb9b.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psc00c72be.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psc4f0b256.jpg

Really cool! They look great!
If I were you I would be holding back the entire clutch haha
I think your best bet is to breed back to mom and also if you can get a visual albino to breed the light babies to when they're old enough that could prove out the het albino theory, since they did color up a bit.
This is definitely an exciting project! I can't wait to see what else you produce from it :)

Thanks! After their shed they don't really look axanthic to me but maybe Fire or Sulfer or possibly Vanilla but I have 0 experience with any of those morphs to be sure though. Hoping I can figure it out! :)

Good luck!