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  • 07-07-2014, 12:58 AM
    Generationshell
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
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    Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    They attribute all kinds of motives and thought processes to them that snakes just aren't capable of.

    I completely agree. I try to explain to people that a snake doesn't have the cognitive ability to feel sad about the fact that it is confined to a tank or tub. They don't think like us.

    However many will argue, "How do you know that they lack the ability to feel emotion?"

    No, the truth is I can't say for sure that they can't feel emotions; however I do know that scientists have studied their brains and found that they do not have the section that deals with emotions (that humans have). So...
  • 07-07-2014, 09:57 AM
    CORBIN911
    A snake being in a tub is like us being in a house, Them getting a F/T rat is like us getting a Nice steak! And not chewing the cows behind!

    It's hard for alot of people to understand, because they think snakes need to be treated such as a dog, with exercise and physical and visual stimulation is needed or they are "sad".


    I let my GF test this buy placing my snakes in my ARS rack. Yet let her pick her "Favorite" one and we set up a glass tank.. it lasted for about 3 months when shes like. "He doesnt even move in the trees i gave him" Then notices the picky eating habbits from being in a open enclosure!

    Ended with me being right and being able to say the famous "Told ya so!":taz:
  • 07-19-2014, 08:12 PM
    DennisM
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    People who aren't snake people simply don't understand their needs. Proper temps and humidity, an appropriate hide, fresh water and regular meals. No doubt our pythons would be much "happier" being born in the wild and being served for dinner to a predator within the first days of their lives as most are. I wonder how many of these critics have house cats and dogs on leashes.
  • 07-19-2014, 08:20 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DennisM View Post
    People who aren't snake people simply don't understand their needs. Proper temps and humidity, an appropriate hide, fresh water and regular meals. No doubt our pythons would be much "happier" being born in the wild and being served for dinner to a predator within the first days of their lives as most are. I wonder how many of these critics have house cats and dogs on leashes.

    Or being a luckily Wild born high white gorgeous pied and being singled out and eaten first!! Aswell as other colorful bright morphs!!


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  • 07-19-2014, 08:23 PM
    Navaro
    Or being riddled with mites, and parasites. Only being able to digest 15% of their meals, if they are lucky to come across them, due to a house of parasites feeding off everything else within them.


    The mere fact that when kept properly and cared for in captivity , their life expectancy is exponentially higher, should speak volumes.

    And like I've always said. It beats the alternative. To fear snakes, and loathe them, and kill them whenever you get the chance.
  • 07-19-2014, 11:49 PM
    vangarret2000
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    A snake being in a tub is like us being in a house, Them getting a F/T rat is like us getting a Nice steak! And not chewing the cows behind!

    It's kinda like that except we aren't forced to stay in our house if we don't want to. To compare to humans it would kinda be more like being a prisoner. You get the bare necessities to live but don't get free will. A big difference to that as well even is snakes mostly don't interact with other snakes in captivity.
  • 07-20-2014, 05:15 PM
    vangarret2000
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Or being a luckily Wild born high white gorgeous pied and being singled out and eaten first!! Aswell as other colorful bright morphs!!


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    The majority of morphs were created from breeding in captivity.
  • 07-20-2014, 06:08 PM
    Cyndymei
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    However in the case of piebalds, the first was found in the wild. The ball pythons are solitary animals and also would not likely go to interact with each other except in the case of breeding. I think what matters most here is the animals are being kept in good conditions in the home. A captive born ball python probably wouldn't have any memories of that nice toasty termite mound in Ghana.
  • 07-21-2014, 01:12 PM
    sorraia
    Re: Snakes have a sad life in a tank...
    Once in awhile, but not too often. Most people don't ask, or know me well enough to know better.

    But I look at it this way: a snake in a tank or tub is no worse off than any other captive animal, including dogs. Think about it, in the wild canines are constantly moving over large areas. Unless you leave your dog to run free, or are walking it hours every day, the dog isn't getting that Dans stimulation and exercise. Especially true of dogs left in a kennel or apartment all day. (This of course doesn't apply to all, just thinking of the average dog owner I know. ) of course your average person on the street won't think of it this way, or will get angry at the insinuation they aren't caring for their dog optimally, but the comparison is no less valid.
  • 07-21-2014, 01:44 PM
    Kat_Dog
    Usually when I tell people I have 4 snakes they get a little freaked and ask "Do you let them roam around your house??" to which I reply "Of course not, if I did, then I wouldn't have a pet snake in the morning" lol

    I've never been asked why I keep them in enclosures all day or told it's cruel, usually I just get compliments on how nice the enclosures are.

    I am either really good about who I talk to, or I have yet to meet one of those negative types who thinks they're going to save the world.
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