WORLDS FIRST - Lesser Albino Pied (poss pastel)

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Originally Posted by Adam105

Good question...blue eyed leucy's seem to have a different head/face scalation and somewhat larger eyes. This has normal scalation but slightly smaller eyes associated with lesser pieds.

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Well good luck to ya proving it out

Very nice clutch indeed. :gj:

the difference between BEL and pied can also be seen in the quality of the white.

i think BPs have a "white" pigment, or at least some pigment to make the skin more reflective and less transparent, so while lavender hues and pink hues come from absence of pigment + transparency, white comes from something like absence of transparency + reflectivity / dispersion.

but there is an elephant in the room

the snake only appears to have one eye. and the head is really wide. one eye is, i dont know, just flat, and the other one does not stand out like it would in a normal. also the shape of the head is weird and off.

i have to say its quite a freak. better resolution pics and more pics would help, but something is not right here. maybe you hit albino pied super lesser, and also hit the issues that can sometimes come with super lesser.

I've produced a handful of lesser pieds and they've all had the small eyes just like the OP's albino lesser pied. Here is a pretty good picture showing the eyes of a lesser pied...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...LesserPied.jpg

Unfortunately the pics are kind of crappy, but the eyes are "normal" aside from being slightly small. For now I have no way of knowing what a super lesser pied looks like so it is a possibility I suppose. Like Mr. Green, I have hatched out many lesser and pastel lesser pieds so I know one when I see one. In my experience, the pastel lesser pieds I have produced have not had the "small-eye issue" so I dont think there is any pastel in this REL, but only time will tell. Thanks!
-Adam

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Originally Posted by Adam105

Thanks everyone...and yes both sire and dam were pastel lesser DH's.

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That's what I thought. Only asking because curious, as someone else mentioned, how you could tell whether it was actually a pied and not an albino BEL. Either way you have one heck of an animal! :gj:

Wow that's one awesome clutch! Congrats!

Congrats! Not that fond of the look, personally (don't really like red eyes), but a breeding powerhouse regardless of which exact combination of genes it carries.

For my tastes, I think either the pastel pied or the pastel lesser are the "pick of the clutch". Love low white pieds, and does that lesser have a ringer?

i like red eyes, when they move around and look at me and stuff.

i dont know, genetically its an archievement. i know about the eye issues in super butters / super lessers, but i did not know that lesser pieds are also affected.

all the people i know that have slightly smaller eyes a bit deeper in the skull need glasses, contact lenses, or laser surgery. thats just geometry, if the shape is off by more than the lens can correct, the result is a blur.

i guess its just not for me. i looked up more pictures of lesser pieds, many of them also show the slightly abnormal head shape. but then, im being a total hypocrite because i am a fan of scaleless, and they lack heat pits and belly scales, which arguably screws up their ability to perform as a predator in the wild even more than a paintjob and bad eyes. i guess it comes down to aesthetics.

So... I was showing my husband...and he wanted to know what the snakes spell. We couldn't quite figure it out... but it sure does look like someone is trying to send a subliminal message!

Pied... upside-down Q... or ???

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g.../letters-1.png