Spider Ball Pythons

http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php here a good page done by a member on this site about morphs that have issue.
Hope you don't mind owal


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Oh ya the neurological problems. I did forget about that when I made my post. I never heard of the 25% dead snakes though. The guy on snakebytes seems to think it's ok but I'm not a fan of breeding things with neuro problems so you're right I might stay away from spider on spider. I read that link and he makes some good points. They do survive well in captivity. I'll have to continue researching.

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Originally Posted by alan12013

neurological problems. I did forget about that. I never heard of the 25% dead snakes though. The guy on snakebytes seems to think it's ok but I'm not a fan of breeding things with neuro problems so you're right I might stay away from spider on spider.

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The community as a whole can't decide what happen to the Homozygous spider. All that that we know is big breed have try to produce some and haven't.


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In addition to my long list on the first page, I just emailed about a female lemon pastel that was hatched in 2013. This one looks amazing and her eyes are turning green. She's a very good looking one. Sorry for the long thread, I'm just trying to get this figured out so I can start collecting soon.

If you really like one get it get what you like that alway the best route the only one on that list I would stay away from as first breeding stock is the albino unless you where going to get everything albino


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All spiders are "special" for lack of a better term.
As others have said, you are looking at a couple of years before your hatchling buys would be ready to go.
Even if you bought ready to go girls, you still want to qt for at least 6 months.

Ok I think I like the spiders and pastels. After some reading I realized I should have left the "lemon" off of the lemon pastel lol... I wont digress there although I want to badly. I checked out your website Robert, pretty awesome! Seems like you have a good thing going. I almost took a pretty good job with CACI down there in San Antonio when I was in DC. Strangely enough now I own a cafe :/

I don't believe in pattern morph quality. It all depends on what you like. Personally I am a high white reduced pattern kind of guy, but I know a lot of people who perfer low white busy patterns. I'd go with the female if you are happy with how she looks. It's a better investment

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I don't believe in pattern morph quality. It all depends on what you like. Personally I am a high white reduced pattern kind of guy, but I know a lot of people who perfer low white busy patterns. I'd go with the female if you are happy with how she looks. It's a better investment

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Or like me with pastels......................... I like a ton of blushing and dirty as can be.

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Originally Posted by 989josh

Some people believe that spider x spider will give you 25% dead snakes if you want to do that breed I strongly recommend researching about it. Also in case you don't know the spider gene does have a head wobble ( neurological problem) with it some people avoid the gene all together because of it. Not that I'm try to turn you away from spider I personal love them.


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And we call those people wrong. :P