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  • 05-20-2014, 04:51 PM
    richiquick
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    Thank you for your advice everyone,I've been reading and reading to learn everything I can,I'm gonna keep an eye on feeding to make sure Elsa is healthy and happy.I will be sure if she doesn't eat that day I leave her alone lol,not to bad now but in a few years I don't want to face her hungry lol

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  • 05-20-2014, 04:57 PM
    richiquick
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  • 05-20-2014, 08:25 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: First bcc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    Is the 85-90 her hot side temps or is that her temp gradient? If that's the gradient I'd actually bump that way down to 77-79 cold side/ambient temps and hot side 88-89, these guys are much more sensitive to warmer temps than pythons in my opinion and seem more comfortable at cooler temps.

    I leave my guys alone for 1-3 days after eating but that's just personal preference, and feeding schedule for boas differs than pythons in that you shouldn't feed them as much. Babies start at 7-10 days (5 is much too much for babies IMO, you want these guys grown super slow as it's the most healthy long-term), sub adults 10-14 days, and adults can go 2-3 weeks. Over feeding can lead to obesity. I feed mice up to the boa's first year then switch over to rats.

    Depending on the individual ad species/locality some boas can live in tubs for up to their second year (on average: this is when it was time for them to be moved into their appropriate 4-6' enclosures).

    Do you have any pics?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Obviously photos are KEY here LOL!

    Everybody loves a nice BCC.

    You will want to look at Daybreaker's advice and Evenstar's on feeding.

    Just as boas are different from BP's. BCC's are different from BCI's and excluding Peruvian BCC's they can have digestive issues if overfed.

    A good read is THE COMPLETE BOA CONSTRICTOR by Vincent Russo.

    And any post on the internet by Gus Rentfro regarding boas is also gospel.

    Have fun!!


    ^^^ This is very good advice. One thing I wanted to take note of though - someone suggested feeding every 5-7 days. Do not do that. Boas have a MUCH slower metabolism than ball pythons and even babies do well eating every 10 days. Bcc can actually be more sensitive than Bci and you should consider that. Some Bcc have a propensity to regurge if they are fed too frequently or too large, or if husbandry is not just right.

    Feed a prey item that does not leave a noticeable lump and feed no more often than every 10 days - even if this is a baby. Go slow now and you won't be likely to have problems later. :gj:
  • 05-20-2014, 09:04 PM
    blackfish707
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    Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    You are bound to soon find out that these animals can be a bit of a chore to put back in an enclosure when they think they want to be out longer. I average 3-4 tries to get my BCL girls head back in her enclosure when handling time is over. She loves to back up and go around the door instead of inside.


    Oh my god, I'm not alone! My Hog female does this every single time.

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  • 05-23-2014, 02:11 PM
    richiquick
    Re: First bcc
    Thanks for all the help,I can not believe the rate of growth,she is Such fun!It does take me about ten minutes to get her back,lol,its like she knows!How fast do they actually grow?Never an issue with regurgitating her food,its only been about ten days and she has grown already!Is it because she was just born when I got her or can I expect this rate straight through?When I got her all she wanted was to drink water,she has since stopped that,is it possible I gave her her first meal?She came from a expo at which she was in a tub with a bunch of other babies

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  • 05-23-2014, 07:50 PM
    Gio
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richiquick View Post
    Thanks for all the help,I can not believe the rate of growth,she is Such fun!It does take me about ten minutes to get her back,lol,its like she knows!How fast do they actually grow?Never an issue with regurgitating her food,its only been about ten days and she has grown already!Is it because she was just born when I got her or can I expect this rate straight through?When I got her all she wanted was to drink water,she has since stopped that,is it possible I gave her her first meal?She came from a expo at which she was in a tub with a bunch of other babies

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    Read THE COMPETE BOA CONSTRICTOR by Vincent Russo. It's a great read and you will see mirrored advice there from Evenstar, Doolittle and Daybreaker. Your best course of action is to "slow grow" that female. She will still get huge. The largest boas are the oldest boas and the oldest boas are the boas that are not feed too frequently.

    You and your snake will be much happier with an extremely lean, muscular body than an oversized, fat, pinhead body type.

    BCC's are something special. I LOVE my BCI and would not change the fact that he is a BCI but you have, really what the "boa world" finds as the pinnacle snake.

    Having said that, BCC's are also the species that allow fewer mistakes in regard to feeding and husbandry.


    Best advice is to be patient and let your snake mature slowly. I just re-read the feeding and breeding schedules for these snakes in Russo's book and really can't stress enough how important the seasonal changes are.

    It's not rocket science, however to have a long lived beautiful snake, it is the BEST advice to follow.

    The hardest thing, and I know this because I want to have a nice big snake, is to use some restraint and grow your boa slowly.

    This coming winter I will maybe feed my boa twice.
  • 05-23-2014, 09:32 PM
    Daybreaker
    OP: What locality of BCC do you have?
  • 05-23-2014, 10:15 PM
    richiquick
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    Columbian as far as I know,she has an sideways hour glass pattern on her back

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  • 05-23-2014, 10:16 PM
    richiquick
    Re: First bcc
    I don't know much about them honestly

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  • 05-23-2014, 10:17 PM
    Daybreaker
    Re: First bcc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richiquick View Post
    Columbian as far as I know,she has an sideways hour glass pattern on her back

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    Colombians are BCI, not BCC. We can help ID from pics.
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