Dealing with suspicious breeders

For him to be as bold as to say he HAS a clutch the Will produce a 3 gene animal is rather silly he doesn't know the odds

I agree. Get your money back. To not offer a refund is ridiculous and bad business. Because of him you're plans are now set back a year. That's not cool. He needs to make this right especially since you could of bought from someone else and had the breeding season you planned for. Be sure to put this on fauna and contact your bank.

Ask for your money back. But with what you have said already, good luck with that.

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I'm guessing that you did not pay using a credit card or you could have started a chargeback long before now. As it is too much time may have passed to open a dispute, and if the breeder arrived home to find a mess he may not have the cash available to give you a refund.

I would not take the offer on the "guaranteed" three-gene hatchling, no one can guarantee the outcome of a clutch.

I would first ask for a pic of the offered male, to ensure it exists. If it does I would take it as that's likely the best offer you'll ever get from this breeder. Then, either sell the bee and buy an enchi fire female which should be easier to find, or even some other female more suited to the male.

Or if you like the bee, get a male for her and run with two projects...

I am on par with the others. It sounds like this guy was scamming you. I would demand a refund and find a more reputable breeder to work with, or find someone local.

I am sorry that this happened, though. It's messed up.

Refund. Period.....

I would definitely ask for my money back. Sounds way too suspicious for me.

Not your fault the snake died if it even ever existed. Refund, cut and run. Find another breeder, lay hands/eyes on the snake, then buy it.

Please tell us who he is so we all can BOL for this seller.

Ok just as I expected. I ask for a refund and he refused. Blaming me again for my late payment. He said he has 3 clutches hatching and the due date is may 20 or so. If he doesn't hit it he will trade with other breeder or whatever it takes to get me the snake.

Doesnt sound like like he wants to give me the money back :(

and yes did not go thought a credit card, he doesn't accept credit card. Now I know why...

at this point I really just want my money back. Still trying to formulate a response to him. Despite all this I have been keepin my calm from what I see in his past negative feedback he likes to provoke ppl and and use ppl's frustration against them.

Anyways really would value some input on whAt to do here

to be fair I do believe he had the snake he show me an in egg photo of the baby and a freshe shred photo of the same snake. None of that really matters now though...

the breeder in question here is Chris Loukas of Omega Pythons in Toronto

i have copy of our email conversation... I really don't want to start a fight but I really just want my money back now. I think any credible business should offere a refund if something like this happen. He knows how long it took for me to come up with the money and to hold my money indefinitey is really unacceptable.