Dumbo Odd Eye Merle Rat

Do you guys use all your rats as feeders? Just perusing this section and there's so many beautiful and unique rats! Wondering if you sell pets as well? I don't think I'd be able to feed my snakes something so cute, haha!


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I'm on a FB rat group that is really active. Everyone swaps and sells all the time. I can't wait until I too can sell. I want to start breeding for show standards so I can sell to pet people more. I'm ok with feeding the cute ones off though. :P I just save them for last and holdback ones from good litters that are what I like the best. I only have one rat rack (and no room for another until I get a house) so I can't keep very many holdbacks.

What group is it? I'd love I join! I need some minks and blues :)


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I feed fancies if necessary, they are all just the same animal, the only difference being appearance. I produce blues and minks and a LOT of other colours here in the Los Angeles area, but the only mouse/rat show I've ever been to was pathetic. Hopefully with all the interest in the recent past that will improve.

Rat Genetisists, what would I get from that Merle to solid black females whose father was blue?

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I feed fancies if necessary, they are all just the same animal, the only difference being appearance. I produce blues and minks and a LOT of other colours here in the Los Angeles area, but the only mouse/rat show I've ever been to was pathetic. Hopefully with all the interest in the recent past that will improve.

Rat Genetisists, what would I get from that Merle to solid black females whose father was blue?

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Depends on the recessives the grandsire and granddam were carrying. We will assume the grandsire is aagg (American Blue) and granddam is aa (Black). So that would make the Black female aaGg, so aaGg x aammPepeMeme = aa (Black) carrying Mink. Some will be unexpressed Pearl, some will be unexpressed Merle, some will carry American Blue. But if the black female is carrying other recessives, you could get some Mink based, etc. And if the Pearl Merle buck had parents that carried Blue, you can expect Blue based.

It's hard to give an accurate answer without a three generation pedigree, even then, it's just a guess. Rat Genetics are difficult because of all of the recessives that lurk.

Hold back the does (females) and breed them back to their sire. Should give you some Pearl Merles, if he's Pearl Merle.

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

Depends on the recessives the grandsire and granddam were carrying. We will assume the grandsire is aagg (American Blue) and granddam is aa (Black). So that would make the Black female aaGg, so aaGg x aammPepeMeme = aa (Black) carrying Mink. Some will be unexpressed Pearl, some will be unexpressed Merle, some will carry American Blue. But if the black female is carrying other recessives, you could get some Mink based, etc. And if the Pearl Merle buck had parents that carried Blue, you can expect Blue based.

It's hard to give an accurate answer without a three generation pedigree, even then, it's just a guess. Rat Genetics are difficult because of all of the recessives that lurk.

Hold back the does (females) and breed them back to their sire. Should give you some Pearl Merles, if he's Pearl Merle.

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Let me elaborate on that. Each kit has 50% chance to carry American Blue. Each kit has a 50% chance to be unexpressed Pearl or Merle.

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Originally Posted by DanaBug020

What group is it? I'd love I join! I need some minks and blues :)


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California Rat Breeders.

I'm in it too! :)
I specialize in the minks and russian blues.

Ok! That's the same group having a BBQ on the 17th? I took the day off for it!

Side note... I just attempted a humane euthanasia with the dry ice cooler method.... How do I know if they suffered or not? I taped my phone in the cooler so I could watch to see if they panicked or just fell asleep and after watching I just feel traumatized. Any way to know if they suffered? I feel like a terrible person :(


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Sorry for the thread hijack!


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I use CO2, but from a tank. Given the options, whacking, thumping, cervical spinal separation, freezing (which for anything bigger than a fuzzy is cruel and inhumane) or being smacked against a wall, I think it's one of the most humane methods to kill. They have to get dead, so we should do our best to provide them a good death.