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Need help fast!!!!!!!!!

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  • 03-30-2014, 10:17 PM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    Ty elbee


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  • 03-30-2014, 10:19 PM
    Pyrate81
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    nvmd...

    they could still be having an adverse affect to the spray. I'd place them in a well ventilated area.
  • 03-30-2014, 10:25 PM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    The spray for the snakes is made for snakes the ardap is a universal pest control for use in pigeon shed bird cages animal cages and dog kennels but I've seen threads on rfuk where they use it in snake tanks and the pet shop used it in their snake tanks


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  • 03-30-2014, 10:26 PM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    Kk so leave the tanks to air out for what? Another 24 hrs or so?


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  • 03-30-2014, 10:28 PM
    ivanb
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    I don't want to scare you, but you should avoid using Pyrethrins (which seems to be an ingredient of that Ardap spray) on reptiles. Specially if it's aerosolized.

    Have a look at this article:
    http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Rept...d-Permethrins/

    Try to keep them in a clean enclosure for a while, and make sure they have enough ventilation. Hope they get better!

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  • 03-30-2014, 10:33 PM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks for that post seems I have the answer now, the yawning stretching choking look must be them open mouth breathing from the fumes, guess it needs airing out more, so If I keep them in a run in a separate room now they should be ok?


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  • 03-30-2014, 10:34 PM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    Rub*


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  • 03-30-2014, 11:11 PM
    kc261
    So... it's been about an hour since you first posted. Are they doing better?

    My guess is that the ardap didn't have enough time to air out adequately, or you just used too much of it and/or the other one. Pyrethrins and the rest of that family are kind of scary, but since you say other UK people have used these products with snakes, then my guess is that it is more an error in the way it was used than the product chosen. I'd always go underkill rather than overkill on these things, as you can always do another treatment.

    If they aren't looking better even out of the enclosure, I'd wipe them down to try to remove what is on them.
  • 03-31-2014, 07:39 AM
    ekansnakekans
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    Hi yes went to bed at like 6.30am here as was up all night making sure they were ok, after about 2 hours they stopped doing the mouth thing and settled, I'm gonna try to put them back in their tanks today after airing out for about 12 hours more, I think I did use too much of the ardap as I wanted to blast the little b******* and it's my first time doing a mite treatment, fingers crossed second attempt goes well, thank you too everyone who helped and gave me advice last night, was avert scary time for me and you all helped so thanks again


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  • 03-31-2014, 11:35 AM
    bcr229
    Re: Need help fast!!!!!!!!!
    0.82% permethrin + 0.1% pyrethrin is a very strong insecticide, I really hope you didn't spray that on the snake. PAM isn't that strong, only 0.5% permethrin with no pyrethrin, and the typical NIX treatment (2 oz of the 1% permethrin cream rinse dissolved in 1 gallon of water) that also works for mites is even weaker, only about 0.01% permethrin with no pyrethrin, and yet it still works.

    Wash those enclosures with soap and water before putting the snakes back into them.
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